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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: Allan Lacki ()
Date: December 04, 2018 10:43AM

Hi Rick, That's right! There's a little filler plate where the stock tailpipe would be, and it has an Abarth logo.

I found the photo of this Corvair on the internet while I was looking for pictures of early 4-door Corvairs. Here is the URL.

[en.wheelsage.org]

It appears to have been photographed in front of an Abarth office building, most likely in Turin, Italy. The sign on the building says "Abarth & C.", which is the official name of the company. Abarth & C. still exists. It's a division of Fiat Chrysler. Too bad they gave up making exhaust pipes for Corvairs!

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 04, 2018 11:27AM

I think I have some other pictures I found after this initial post.

I'll have to check for them when I get home.

They show the same car parked in front of the Abarth shop.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Date: December 04, 2018 11:45AM

SCORPIO!





Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: scottymac ()
Date: December 04, 2018 01:41PM

I'm acquiring parts for a hot rod 1961 BMW 700 Coupe. That's right, all 697cc! The similarities to Corvairs are amazing to those not familiar with them, but only about 3,500 were officially imported to the States between 1959 and 1965, too expensive, Beetles were cheaper. Two cylinder boxer engine, similar to their bikes, mounted in the rear using a four speed transaxle. I thought Kent Sullivan owned one, but I may be wrong.

A few years back, a vendor in Holland advised he'd found a warehouse with old Abarth stock and drawings. He was able to unearth a set of mufflers for a 700. IIRC, price came to about $660 plus shipping. I looked on the German e-Bay site where I'd discovered mine, but didn't see that vendor.

[mail.tds.net]

Scott
'65 Corsa basket case
'66 Monza coupe

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: didget69 ()
Date: December 04, 2018 05:41PM

I'm happy when people correctly pronounce Carlo's last name: 'Ah-barth'

Bryan

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Date: December 05, 2018 05:10AM

I could make this system.

1961 Corvair 700 Sedan - 3sp - Gasoline Heat - Lowered - Rust in Progress


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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 05, 2018 03:15PM

LOL, I dug through my files and found the picture I was thinking of from FAZA/Car Graphic ABARTH GUIDE by Al Cosentino, on page 144.

Turns out it is the same picture...

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: December 05, 2018 03:18PM

Here you go....

Carlos Abarth and the almost Corvair Abarth ..

For those who are unfamiliar with the Abarth name, Carlo Abarth in Italy was to Fiats what Shelby was to Ford, and Yenko was to Chevrolet. He was a tuner in the fifties and sixties specializing in small Fiat 500 and 600 models. But he also turned out literally hundreds of other hotted-up models by Fiat, Alfa, Porsche, and Simca. His business started by selling exhaust systems and grew from there.

Karl Abarth was an Austrian with a deep passion for design and performance. His competition history began on two wheels, and continued on four through the 1930s. By then, he had moved to Italy, whereby ‘Karl’ became ‘Carlo’. Various collaborative efforts – including the iconic Cisitalia – occupied his time and talents throughout the 1940s, and led to the formation of his own company, Abarth & C., in 1949. Abarth, born under the astrologic sign of Scorpio, chose the Scorpion as his logo. And although most of the company’s tuning capital was expended on Fiat, modified variants of Porsche, Simca, Siata, Lancia, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari were produced, while an Abarth-modified Corvair was contemplated.

In FAZA/Car Graphic ABARTH GUIDE by Al Cosentino, on page 144, there is a Corvair section titled "1961 Chevrolet Abarth Corvair Prototipo" (prototype). There's a pic of a stock looking 1961 Corvair Sedan sitting in front of the Abarth Factory. According to Al, Abarth was working on producing a performance kit for the Corvair— Additional gages, special grille, suspension and engine tweaks, plus a free flowing exhaust system There was both a competition/race version as well as more suitable street version designed. Apparently, Carlo Abarth's plan was to provide the parts, development and performance in the form of a dealer kit for the General Motors Corvair cars in the United States.

Extensive development had been done to the Corvair and Carlo Abarth had spent as much time testing the car with all the changes and additions his staff made as they did to any other Fiat Abarth or pure Abarth cars except for the Formula 1. The Corvair Abarth was eventually perfected completely after Carlo Abarth drove it whenever and wherever he could. It was as ready as any of his best creations including all the trimmings. Abarth muffler, grille and instruments. The story is that after about six months of tuning and testing, all of a sudden the work stopped and the car disappeared."

Although the plans to market and sell a complete kit did not come to light, the exhaust work and testing did produce a product that was offered for sale and found in many 1961 era Abarth ads. The Abarth Corvair exhaust was sold along with many other makes and models of free flowing exhaust. There were two models available.

Abarth Corvair - Competition Dual Exhaust Model CV-400C / #1143 $ 84.50

Abarth Corvair - Single Exhaust Model CV-200 / #1136 $ 44.50

There are many rumors why the performance package failed, ranging from Fiat not wanting the competition, to GM itself resisting the partnership. It would make more sense that GM would not support the development of the Abarth Corvair dealer package, as John Fitch was already working with GM in developing his own aftermarket performance package in the Fitch Sprint, as well as GMs development of the Monza Spyder option as a factory performance package.

The Corvair Abarth connection was also referenced in the Motorbooks International “Buyer Guides” Page 123 of the 128 softcover publication was this information…

"In 1961 Carlo Abarth took a fancy to the new Corvair and developed a complete modification kit for the rear-engine General Motors product. Selling such a kit to GM as a dealer modification would have given a new meaning to the name Abarth in the United States, but it was not to be. Given what happened to the Corvair, it may not have been a wise decision for Abarth at any rate. Abarth's fate would have been a kinder one."

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: 1961 Corvair Abarth Prototype and Abarth exhausts
Posted by: stitch ()
Date: December 05, 2018 03:27PM

scottymac Wrote:
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> I'm acquiring parts for a hot rod 1961 BMW 700
> Coupe. That's right, all 697cc! The similarities
> to Corvairs are amazing to those not familiar with
> them, but only about 3,500 were officially
> imported to the States between 1959 and 1965, too
> expensive, Beetles were cheaper. Two cylinder
> boxer engine, similar to their bikes, mounted in
> the rear using a four speed transaxle. I thought
> Kent Sullivan owned one, but I may be wrong.
>


Had a 61 NSU Prinz in 68. 600cc 2 cylinder in the rear. Small world..

"If you can't fix it with a Hammer, you have an Electrical problem."
Stitch...
Schertz, Texas.
(Smallish town/burg 17 mi. NE of San Antonio)

!967.. 4th body
8th off the line

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