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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 21, 2016 08:48PM

Yessir Mr. Dave!

Sorry I didn't clean up the rest of the starter but it was a known good unit from my Rampside that had merely suffered a cracked nose cone. The marraige was meant to be.smileys with beer

BTW, that's your '60 throttle rod too. smiling smiley

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2016 08:50PM by cnicol.

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: January 22, 2016 06:55AM

Yes it is actually clear. I never really thought about why that line was there, under the distributor. But your explanation has cleared it up. Mine was connected but never took time to understand why. Learn something new every day.

Thanks


cnicol Wrote:
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> Lee wrote: "Or he can get the hose and metal lime
> that runs under the distributor then to the
> passenger exhaust manifold. It draws heat into the
> air cleaner housing, for some reason. I don't
> understand what it is..."
>
> @Lee & Mike:
> I haven't run any vacuum lines yet. Rest assured
> winking smiley they'll all get hooked up soon.
>
> What it is:
> This is one of those "hip bone is connected to the
> leg bone" things. Overall, it's the hot-air
> system for the choke coil.
>
> 1) Vacuum from the vacuum balance tube is
> connected to the choke housing, causing it to suck
> air at the threaded inlet connection.
>
> 2) The threaded inlet connection is connected to
> the exhaust manifold using a cloth-insulated
> tube.
>
> 3) There's a tube through the exhaust manifold
> (Isolated from the exhaust) that warms the air
> that's being sucked through by 1 & 2 above.
>
> 4) Air gets sucked into the exhaust manifold
> passage through the rear tube by the ignition
> coil.
>
> 5) The tube by the ignition coil is supplied with
> clean air from the air cleaner nipple.
>
> Clear as a bell, eh?smileys with beer

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: Paulsgt ()
Date: January 22, 2016 09:06AM

Makes me wish I would have bid higher for one of those "new" 1960 Corvairs when I was at the Lambrecht auction a couple of years back. Never realized just how much is special about a 1960.

Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer <-new title
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI



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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: January 22, 2016 04:19PM

Craig,

I'm really enjoying your posts. I personally stayed away from the 1960 because of the differences from later years. Started that back in my starving student years, collecting parts to keep my Corvairs running. Kinda stuck to that. I admire the 60 for it's differences. Your project along with Caveman Pete, get me thinking. Now if I had a space to keep and work on one......

Keep us posted. really enjoying it. And all the participation from these guysthumbs up

Corventure Dave

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 22, 2016 04:52PM

Well... drum roll... She's a runner!

A little broken bolt drillin' and tappin' for the battery tray bolts, followed by a little bendin' and hammerin' (the tray had been modified) and there was a place for a battery!

Sneak over to the Rampside and pinch its battery before it can turn around and get mad... and the '60 has a battery. Now we're getting close.


The "new" fuel pump that came with the car in a nice shiny box turned out to be N.G. so I installed a used pump from my stash and performed CPR to prime the carbs.

I could tell the car wanted to run because it more or less came alive when I applied power. The heater fan came on, the left blinker came on, and the glove box light came on. (It HAS a glove box light??? This IS a 500???)

A couple of cranks and the engine more or less started right up! 20 minutes at about 2000 to break-in the cam and we're good to go smiling bouncing smiley...almost.confused smiley

Oil pressure - Check!
Charging voltage - Check!
Leak free - Check!
Trans goes backwards and forward - Check!
Runs on all six..... umm.... five? hot smiley

It's all good except it seems the #3 cylinder has no compression. I suspect the intake valve is either stuck open or adjusted too tight. Busy weekend ahead so I'll look into this early next week.

Overall, I'm really pleased; so much is good so far. I'm not quite ready to say I'm over the hump but it's sure getting closer. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 22, 2016 04:57PM

Great news!! now take a break!





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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: strangecars ()
Date: January 22, 2016 06:13PM

Damn, I was hoping for a video. 😎

Steve Morton
1961 Rampside, 67 and 2 1964 Monzas

Morton's Classic Garage
Parts and Service
Nampa, Idaho 83686
30+ parts cars

Mortonsclassicgarage@gmail.com
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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 22, 2016 06:22PM

strangecars Wrote:
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> Damn, I was hoping for a video. 😎


Umm... let's just say the air quality inside the shop was not conducive to hanging around and breathing. LOL

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cad-kid ()
Date: January 22, 2016 06:54PM

Awesome work! Thanks for documenting the project.

Jeremy (cad-kid)
Kronenwetter, WI (Central Wisconsin)
CORSA Member#031129
SOLD-9-2016 65 Monza 4spd/140
My 65 Monza thread
My YouTube page yawning smiley

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 25, 2016 08:45PM

Back on the twenty-tooth I wrote:

"It's all good except it seems the #3 cylinder has no compression. I suspect the intake valve is either stuck open or adjusted too tight. Busy weekend ahead so I'll look into this early next week."

_________________________________________________________________________________

So today, I pulled the exhaust and right valve cover to find... a perfectly clean and tidy rocker box, not a smidge of silicone anywhere, proper valve cover gasket install, new rocker arms and nuts, and... about six threads showing on the rocker studs. Up on checking the valves were between 1 1/2 to 2-turns from zero lash. Some of the early service information had numbers like that and it appears that's what he used.

Proper adjustment and she's now idling like a kitten at 500 RPM. smileys with beer Easy fix. I'm sorry I never met the PO; he sure did a nice job on this engine.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 25, 2016 09:29PM

Life is good!





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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Date: January 25, 2016 09:39PM

Vairy Nice! Like a Box of Chocolates - Never know what you're going to find! You got the Cherry Liquor, Nut covered Belgian Chocolate there, Craig!
Such a relief to find that the "problem" was easy to cure and hear the satisfaction sounds of a sweet running flat six. Take that, Rolling Stones!
I enjoyed the same pleasure with my $100 engine that went into my Greenbrier.

Great to read your ongoing project updates. Keep 'em coming!


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: Wabbitkiller ()
Date: January 26, 2016 07:25AM

NOw that she's purring like a kitten, we need a video smiling smiley

Chris

1965 Monza 95 Convertible 4 speed

Olathe, KS (Kansas City)


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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: jasonscorvairs ()
Date: January 26, 2016 07:35AM

Craig
Did the 60 come with painted body color in engine area. Or is it a Canadian car. My sons 64 was black from factory made in USA.

Thanks Jason

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: Setterz54 ()
Date: January 26, 2016 11:33AM

Craig,just reading your post on rebuilding your 60. Great job and thank-you for documenting it so well. It was great to read and I really enjoyed it. Your car will be awesome when your done. I dont think I will ever have a 60 but it was intresting to read about the things you went thru to do yours.

Setterz54
Fulton,MD.

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 26, 2016 12:38PM

For those who "Believe it when they see it", the required and oft-requested "VIDEO"grinning smiley

Click for youtube video!


While it starts, idles, and runs great, I have a big 'ol flat spot to fix. I suspect low float levels but could also be pump timing. We'll see winking smiley

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 26, 2016 01:21PM

Finally!! But still a lot of pieces to go!! Spring is close!! gg





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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: 4wd430 ()
Date: January 26, 2016 02:00PM

Where exactly does the hose from the cover labelled "AC" that sits over the 2 carbs go?

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 26, 2016 03:10PM

That's the fresh air supply for the choke. Fresh air is draw into the right-rear end of the exhaust manifold, through a separate passage in the manifold, and out to the choke at the right front.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: GWLee ()
Date: January 27, 2016 06:20AM

Craig, I never thought to put that brass connector on the preheat tube going to the manifold. Of course normally it just goes down and pushes into the top verticle pipe. Your choice has tightened up the loose connection and made it less likely to leak. Just like putting those on the balance tube.

Good idea, I may have to duplicate that if I don't come up with a better manifold than mine with the broken ear. I have one manifold I could use but the tube is missing. I can drill it out and insert the tube and couple with the fitting. What size was it, 3/16"?

Thanks

Lee Adkins

A Cave Man car
1960 2dr Coupe with pg
Color Tasco Turq.
With Ermine white top.

Catlettsburg,
In the Beautiful state of
North/East KY!

Not the best pic, but the only I had from then, 1997!

2016!

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