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Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: December 30, 2015 08:55PM

This is like a puzzle without a picture and I love it! While I did rebuilt a '60 engine a couple of years ago, the owner, Dave Fender dressed the top of the engine so all these weird '60 parts are still Greek to me.confused smiley

Everything technical (starter, generator, carbs, distributor, transaxle) was missing so I've been raiding my parts stash and Motohead has some '60 carbs and linkage which should be on the way next week.

That's when we'll find out just how well the PO rebuilt the engine. Everything that was touched looks excellent so I'm very hopeful. I oiled the cylinders and the engine turns easily. The tools in the PO's shop looked like the real deal. Unfortunately I can't ask him what he did to the engine because he passed away in the middle of the job and there's no one to ask.

Picture 1: The "Parts Inventory"

Pictures 2: Generator, fuel pump, fuel lines, balance tube, front tin, & air cleaner cleaned up and painted where appropriate. Getting close except for the gap between the intake tubes and cylinder heads.

Picture 3: I still need to tackle the choke housing; it's a little dirty!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts




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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Date: December 30, 2015 09:29PM

Looks like a great way to start the new year! I've never owned or worked on a CaveMan Mobile, so it would be a mystery to me, too. I think it was Larry Claypool that said "Chevrolet released the all new Corvair in 1960 and then released another new one in 1961!
Furthest back I go is my 1962 - at least it has a "real" brake M/C!!

May the Force be with you......


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 140 Corsa ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 'Vert Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza 'Vert (SOLD) ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Evening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: jasonscorvairs ()
Date: January 02, 2016 10:55PM

Looking Good Craig. I rebuilt a 60 80hp about 25 years ago. Man there was a lot of pieces. I know where there is a complete 60 engine sitting in a car.

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: January 03, 2016 05:07AM

The air filters on that car must have been terrible. I'd guess the inside of the choke coil will be filthy as well.

I got my carbs from Steve.

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: Aaron65 ()
Date: January 03, 2016 06:07AM

I must have missed that you got a '60...did the Mustang get shuffled to the backburner?

1965 Corvair Monza Convertible 95 4-sp.
1965 Buick Skylark
1965 Ford Mustang
1965 Dodge Dart 170 Wagon
1953 Buick Special Riviera
1974 Pontiac Firebird Esprit

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: January 03, 2016 07:59AM

If you need some really nice '60/'61 logs,I just found a pair in the pile.😉

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: strangecars ()
Date: January 03, 2016 08:05AM

Craig secretly owns one of everything.

Steve Morton
1967 Monza, 1961 Rampside, 2 1964 Monza's, 1963 GB Custom
Nampa, Idaho

"If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong"

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Posted by: Pedigo ()
Date: January 03, 2016 08:06AM

Oh ya...and a vintage '60 air filter,NIB.

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 03, 2016 08:34AM

Aaron65 Wrote:
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> I must have missed that you got a '60...did the
> Mustang get shuffled to the backburner?

No way! The Mustang is still at the body shop and I'm bored! I can't believe I've gone over to the "dark side" (LOL) but '60 Monza coupes have always caught my eye among all the early models.

The '60 Monza coupe was the automotive market pivot that got "youth market" cars started and led to the Mustang et al.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 03, 2016 08:50AM

strangecars Wrote:
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> Craig secretly owns one of everything.

Craig replies:
Hehehe - my secret is out! Now back to working on MY/list. (You know, the ad thing)winking smiley

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 03, 2016 09:05AM

80 hp engines are cool! when I built the one in phils Rampy and ran it on the stand I had to physically touch the rockers to see if they were moving! Basically you hold the gas pedal to the floor and shift gears, the thing will run all day at full throttle.smoking smiley





Email me at: Dave Motohead

1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: Aaron65 ()
Date: January 03, 2016 09:36AM

cnicol Wrote:
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> Aaron65 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I must have missed that you got a '60...did the
> > Mustang get shuffled to the backburner?
>
> No way! The Mustang is still at the body shop and
> I'm bored! I can't believe I've gone over to the
> "dark side" (LOL) but '60 Monza coupes have always
> caught my eye among all the early models.
>
> The '60 Monza coupe was the automotive market
> pivot that got "youth market" cars started and led
> to the Mustang et al.

Is this one in for a full resto or just a "getting it on the road?"

1965 Corvair Monza Convertible 95 4-sp.
1965 Buick Skylark
1965 Ford Mustang
1965 Dodge Dart 170 Wagon
1953 Buick Special Riviera
1974 Pontiac Firebird Esprit

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 03, 2016 10:30AM

Aaron65 wrote: "Is this one in for a full resto or just a "getting it on the road?"

Craig replies: I've developed my own little sweet spot that most people would call "restored" but as a concours judge I can tell you it's not a "full resto". Full resto leads to "trailer queen" and I like to drive my cars.

My formula:
Cosmetically - very very nice
Mechanically - 100% operational and fresh
Authenticity - Close but will deviate, such as paint color

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 03, 2016 06:03PM

Some 60 parts porn for you Craig! The dash was rebuilt by my father, it came out of a 64 Monza 900 convert and is Chrome, the odometer is zeroed out, Unfortunately it was buried in the trunk of the car with other restored parts for years and picked up a few blemishes, 60 starter nose is NOS, think this is the Wheel cap you wanted? Decent driver condition.





Email me at: Dave Motohead

1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 03, 2016 06:23PM

Yippie skippie - All looks good. I see the choke link and throttle rod on the floor too - extra points for Motohead and his chicken!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 03, 2016 06:34PM

Choke link? lol, the link is a carb link, did you need a choke link as well? I can grab it with the wire guides, what link do you need? There are so many on these things! grinning smiley





Email me at: Dave Motohead

1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: January 03, 2016 07:25PM

Today was transaxle day!

Counting transmissions and transaxles, I have about 40 of the danged things and the one I need for this project was, without question, the ugliest of all.

Three hours of cleaning later, the ugly duckling is now a beautiful... duckling?

At any rate I am very pleased to find a very well preserved unit under all that guck. (Around two-three quarts of dirt that had formed into a tar; luckily no grease or oil to speak of)

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: January 03, 2016 07:31PM

WOW! Did you find that in the La brea tar pits? Looks like a Dinosaur bone! grinning smiley





Email me at: Dave Motohead

1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: coleslaw31 ()
Date: January 03, 2016 07:48PM

Haha funny, was told the same from a local here who said a 80hp doesnt have enough power to even destroy itself. Put it to the floor and forget about it .


davemotohead Wrote:
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> 80 hp engines are cool! when I built the one in
> phils Rampy and ran it on the stand I had to
> physically touch the rockers to see if they were
> moving! Basically you hold the gas pedal to the
> floor and shift gears, the thing will run all day
> at full throttle.smoking smiley

South Carolina Upstate



68 Monza convertible 140 4spd A/C (coming soon)
66 Corsa coupe 140 4spd

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Re: Having fun piecing my basket-case '60 engine together
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: January 04, 2016 02:36PM

Ay Craig,

You think that transaxil will run ok, now that you have removed all the insolation?
grinning smileygrinning smileygrinning smiley

Corventure Dave

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