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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 08, 2015 08:15AM

Ummm... Wow!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 08, 2015 10:36AM

Jim wrote:
"The Mustang is the enemy of the Corvair. People think it's Ralph Nader but no, it's the Mustang. 1964 1/2 was the beginning of the end. Of course that's just my opinion and I could be wrong."

Craig repliles:
Enemy? Both were presented to the public and the public voted with their wallets fair and square.

When the Mustang came out, the EM Corvair was in its FIFTH year in an era when the public was still used to body style changes EVERY year. Corvairs still leaked oil big time and according to Consumer Report's annual survey, Corvair owners were reporting "below average" reliability etc. In that light, the enemy might be GM not the competitor with the new, fresh concept.

I've never heard it mentioned but let's not forget Corvair sales lost to the (then) new '64 Chevelle and in '65 the all-new design direction of the '65 full-size line which sold 1.5 MILLION units all by itself! How many Corvair sales were lost to those strong internal competitors?

If GM had fixed the oil leaks (stupidly simple) and introduced the '65 design a year or two earlier, sales might not have been so lop-sided.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: Spectre ()
Date: October 08, 2015 11:06AM

It was also marketing genius to introduce the new Mustang in April, instead of waiting until the normal fall introduction.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible - 140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

2013 Mustang GT convertible - 5.0, 6spd auto, Procharger i-1

2003 Miata SE - 6spd manual (wife's toy)

"Victory is mine!" - SG

Oklahoma City, OK

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: NMCarNut ()
Date: October 08, 2015 12:45PM

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> You could put an Indy Engine in it!
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Or go all the way and build one like Ken Block's 'Hoonigan':

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: October 09, 2015 05:42AM

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Mustang concept stands the test of time. smiling smiley
Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: BrentF ()
Date: October 09, 2015 10:37AM

Love these cars!

The late Boyd Coddington did a really nice restomod of a '65 2+2 called Crazy Horse. More on that car here:

[boydcoddingtonsgarage.com]

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: OzJavelin ()
Date: October 26, 2015 09:41PM

wv-geo Wrote:
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> I'm planning to restomod my 65 Mustang, but plan
> on keeping a six cylinder in it.
>
> This is the six, an Australian Ford SOHC 4.0L out
> of a 1998 Falcon.

Try a 4.0L DOHC "Barra" (the newer version) with turbo .. low-spec ones are 240kw entry up to 310kw in the FPV versions: [en.wikipedia.org]

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 27, 2015 02:12AM

That DOHC turbo 4.0 must rock! Assuming 10 pounds of boost, that would act like a 400 cubic inch engine!

Alas, my build will be more conventional; I purchased a 5.0 V8 and T5 five-speed from a 92 Mustang GT.

That Aussie performance stuff is exceedingly rare in the States.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: October 27, 2015 04:45AM

OzJavelin Wrote:
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> Try a 4.0L DOHC "Barra" (the newer version) with
> turbo .. low-spec ones are 240kw entry up to 310kw
> in the FPV versions:
> [en.wikipedia.org]

If you find one in the US, let me know.

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: j3m ()
Date: October 28, 2015 02:20PM

Neat looking color choice.
Rod & Custom Motorsports out of Florence SC was installing MUSTANG II front suspensions into vintage Mustangs more than 25 years ago and had great success with them in street and racing applications.
It completely transforms the vintage stang as the oem front suspension is barely acceptable at best. The steering is vague and the road bumps tend to direct the car more so than driver input at the wheel.
Vintage stangs are absolutely horrible with the large heavy 390 or anything heavier than 500 pounds. Yes, FOMOCO did make the 67-70 stang's engine bay dimensionally larger to easily accept the 390 and physically larger V8's but there was zero effort made to improve the crude(by late twentieth century standards of barely acceptable front suspension design).

Oh what fun it would be to have a classic Mustang's looks but with better and more advanced suspension and other goodies too.


Good luck, with your talents and supreme skills, perhaps IRS like that seen on the ancient 450SL Mercedes of 1972 to 1989 could be adapted. The vehicle track widths are nearly identical. The rear end itself is capable of 400 horsepower and several hundred pounds of torque.

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: October 28, 2015 02:25PM

Think he needs to add a BROWN fuel injection kit!

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: October 28, 2015 03:43PM

In your Dream's FI Boy!

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: igottajob2 ()
Date: October 29, 2015 04:46AM

Jim, well played my friend, well played. I dont think this mustang thing will last. grinning smiley

Minneapolis,MN

1965 500 Coupe
95HP

Built the 1st week of April of 65 at willow run.
500 coupe. The only factory accessory is a rear antenna.
White with a red interior.
Now black with black and red interior.


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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: Setterz54 ()
Date: October 29, 2015 07:41AM

Your Mustang will be great! Its too bad Boyd Coddington is not still around he did some really nice cars.Including that Mustang.

Setterz54
Fulton,MD.

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 29, 2015 08:06AM

Thanks all for the positive input. I'm researching IRS ideas. Late 90s T-Bird would be logical but early research says "4 inches too wide". :-(

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: chanceparker ()
Date: October 29, 2015 12:07PM

Craig, look at the 99-04 Mustang Cobra IRS. Might work.

Chance Parker
Golden, Colorado
Auminum LS-powered 1965 Corsa Convertible



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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: DAVECS1 ()
Date: October 29, 2015 12:49PM

347, Victor Jr EFI manifold, Holley hp ECM, and throttle body, Rockland TKO, quick performance 9 inch with Hod Rods to Hell trailing arms. That would be my quick off the cuff build

1964 Monza Convertible
110 4 speed
Peoria, IL

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: matchlessmo ()
Date: October 30, 2015 03:53AM

Craig, I installed these guys manual rack in 2000 on my 1965 fastback , great on highway, but a bear to steering around town,[www.totalcontrolproducts.com]


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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: October 30, 2015 04:43AM

chanceparker Wrote:
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> Craig, look at the 99-04 Mustang Cobra IRS. Might
> work.

It will work if you flair the fenders and use the high offset wheels from the 99-04 Mustang to keep the tires in the wheelwells.

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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Re: OT - My next project '65 Mustang 2+2 Restomod
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: October 30, 2015 05:30AM

Wow, whoda thunk I would get so much good advice from my fellow Corvair enthusiasts.

I'd go with a 347 stroker in a blink but I'm trying to keep a lid on the budget. 302 roller with a big cam (as purchased). Still looking for a good manifold choice. Maybe a Vic Jr.or performer.

The most likely rear axle would be a 95-up Exploder (disc brakes). Super easy to narrow, and cheap. 4-link would be nice.

I already have an aftermarket coil-over, disc brake front suspension with power rack steering, so that end is figured out.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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