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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 14, 2014 05:06PM

Young Rodney and I are attempting to bolt in the seat belts and we have no dimples and no plugs 1961 Rampside sad smiley

Looking at VairChets schematics and using a sharpie to do the layout this is where we are at :

pass side door - this is a no brainer just drill a hole and the exposed nut and washer ends up being in the wheel well area. - Easy Peasy

Driver side door - this is a no brainer just drill a hole and the exposed washer and nut ends up being in the wheel well area kind of near the filler hose. cool whatever..

The two inboard holes are the issue... Using the schematic the holes end up being into the "Frame " Chanel not accessible with a wrench to add washer and nut... Sooooo do we just drill into the frame and send a tap through it ? Im guessing that we might end up with a few layers of sheet metal to tap through but no real meat. does this sound right ?

From center line of cab we measured approx 11-1/8 " out each direction which lands dead center of the Frame channel on both sides ..

No dimples No plugs

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 14, 2014 05:58PM

1961 Rampside with no dimples no plugs

11-1/8" out from center line and 5-1/4" up from floor bend puts it right in the frame channel, here are 2 pictures where there would have been the factory plugs and as you can see we have drilled a 1/4" hole and there is nothing... only 3/16" thick sheet metal.

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: January 15, 2014 08:02AM

Keep us posted, because I need to do the same. I've seen the belts installed using the bolts at the very bottom of the floor, such as the bolt seen in your first picture. You'll need some long belts to use those bolts though.

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
Now I have 1965 convertible as well, got it running in June, autocrossed in July 2016 at the convention!

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: gmgmtl ()
Date: January 15, 2014 08:21AM

The Corvanatics website has a three point seat belt installation article in its resources section by Steven Spilatro.

http://www.corvair.org/chapters/corvanatics/files/documents/howTo/seatbelts-8door.pdf

Gary Moore near KC Missouri

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: January 15, 2014 08:34AM

There is a factory assembly manual diagram on the first page of this thread...thank you Chet.

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 09:12AM

Using the Schematic provided by Chet as mentioned above the layout for the factory seatbelt anchors is NOT in the fuel tank bay at all it is in fact within the box tubed portion of the Frame which runs along both sides of the fuel tank.

I will take as many clear photos as possible , here we go ,

Beginning in the passenger side wheel well with tire off so we have lots of room to work.

Remove section of Plastic Air box that runs along frame

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 09:14AM

after the box mounting hardware is removed the box pulls out from the top front edge first very easily

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 09:16AM

Now we have exposed the side of the frame rail and the creased floor angle we measured from while inside the vehicle according to the GM schematic

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 09:19AM

Measure up 5-1/4" from the crease bend and that should locate the section of frame rail where the factory welded in support nut would have been ( only problem now is of course the nut was originally inside the frame )
what to do ?

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 09:31AM

now if you wanted to cut open a small area here you would be able to access the backside of the seatbelt bolt hole and add some kind of washer and nut. Or perhaps another idea was to make some small plates that can be slipped into this new frame rail hole that will be dual purpose washer and nut in one.

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 09:43AM

this is a bit of a turning point I guess depending on how much of a fabricator you plan to be.... you could decide to simply move the seatbelt attachment hole just outboard from the frame rail , nut and washer the bolt then reinstall the Air box. Driver side is wide open for the same treatment with nothing in the way requiring removal.

To continue with installing blocks into factory location it will require cutting and welding tools.

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:01PM

more progress

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:02PM

more

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:04PM

did someone say more?

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:05PM

well I guess you can have more

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:07PM

Please sir .. More?

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
Corvair powered Buggy x 3
Enough hidden parts to build a space ship

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:08PM

Mas porfavor

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:10PM

MOE

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
61 Vintage Rampy
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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:12PM

Mo betta butta

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Re: Seatbelt atatchment point in a rampside?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: January 16, 2014 03:14PM

Fin

Rod Tetrault
El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
Class 5 Corvair powered Baja
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