Corvair DiagramCorvair Photo
Corvair Center
home forum corvairs calendar links Corvair Podcast
California Corvairs
Clarks Corvair
American Flat 6


Chevy Corvair License Plate
Chevy Corvair Chrome Wheel
Corvair Center Forum :  Corvair Center Phorum The fastest message board... ever.
Corvair Center 
Pages: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2
V6 questions
Posted by: WillS ()
Date: August 21, 2013 11:10PM

Okay so my corvair has been put on the backburner and now that I finally have some time an money I'd like to restore it. I want to put a v6 in it, but I'm just wondering what all that would require. Pretty much the only thing that i know now is that i need to reverse the cam rotation? Are there any v6s that would fit in the engine bay without deleting the backseat? I think ive heard that some marine v6 engines have the reverse rotation? I'd like to have something a bit more modern and efficient. What would be involved in putting a six speed transmission in? Also I have a pos 98 cavalier that I'd like to get the a/c and disc brakes and master cylinder off of, thoughts?

How realistic are these goals as a 20 hr a week 6 month goal with 2 friends helping?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: August 21, 2013 11:23PM

WELCOME...do yourself a favor before you spend a dime.

Find somebody with a mid engine V8 Corvair and ask to drive it.

When you do that...you will lose the V6 idea immediatly.

A mid engine V8 Corvair will blow your mind.

There is no substitute for cubic inches.


Paso Robles, CA (almost) Unsafe At Any Landspeed
Palmtuckey, CA (not for long) We're Outta Here!!!
Sidewinders (est 1938) CORSA Member-Corsa West
High Desert Corvairs-Corvanatic-Ventura County Corvair
Angel Fan Since 1978...HALO POWER!! So Cal Gas Co Since 1974 (retired)
L/M Landspeed Coupe-65 Corsa-62 Rampside-B&M Blown Mid Engine Funco Sandrail
Next Build L/M ADE/BBC/PG/QC Street Racer-Current Vehicles in My Possession is 12

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 21, 2013 11:37PM

Read your previous postings......

There's easily 1,000 hrs. and considerable engineering involved.. Plus $10k PLUS! things add up!

You've never even posted any pics of your car.....so we have no idea of what you have been working with...but none of the problems you mentioned seemed like "big deals"... to those with experience..... what you need to get before tackling a project you have envisioned...

Myself... I'd consider a Subaru / transaxle...all you want from one car...

But the reverse R & P is $1500!





MODERATOR
Somewhere between Sea Mountain and Coos Bay! SW Oregon Coast
Click HERE for My Website...Click HERE for My TechPages!
.............................PG...................................Turbo

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: VairKing ()
Date: August 22, 2013 12:53AM

See the GTP build thread in my signature. This is how I am doing it. YMMV.

_________________________________________
Ryan Counterman (Moderator)
1965 Corsa Kelmark V8 400 HP ///1965 Monza Sedan 110/PG /// Ultimate Corvair Hauler/// Don Eichstaedt's 1965 Corsa Racecar
West Michigan Corvair Club /// New Build! 1966 Corsa GTP Convertible Mid Engine 3.8L Supercharged!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: Johnniespeed ()
Date: August 22, 2013 01:16AM

Reverse rotation V 6 marine engines do exist, but none are for sale that I could find.
They are quite easy to build, if you know how to properly assemble an engine.
The picture below is one that I built, notice the Corvair transaxle attached and fits into the original engine bay.

John



Snowy Sparta Michigan.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: dragvairclark ()
Date: August 22, 2013 02:06AM

Allen Bristow brought his late convertible with a reversed Range Rover aluminum V8 to the Woodward cruise. Engine fits fine in the back and radiator in the trunk. I was impressed that the engine fit so well in the space vacated by the Corvair engine.

Clark Hartzel, Fraser, MI
1963 Greenbrier

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: gerg ()
Date: August 22, 2013 02:33AM

Phil Dally Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no substitute for cubic inches.


Speaking of cubic inches. This is insane - LOVE IT!!

[m.youtube.com]

gerg
Munreaux, Elay


1967 Monza Coupe, 110Hp, PG, AC.

'67 Monza ----------------------->'65 Vert ------------------>'60 Singlecab --------------->'65 Sunroof Deluxe

Current cars and other fun stuff -> [gregblakeney.smugmug.com]

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: August 22, 2013 03:21AM

After reading your previous posts my unsolicted opinion would be to repair the Corvair engine that has gone south and make the car run. As already noted the building of any kind of conversion is darned expensive and time consuming even for those with lots of experience and tools.

If you start with easy repairs/rebuilding of your Corvair engine you will gain experience as well as stock your tool box. You get to enjoy your Corvair now while planning ahead. I am guessing you are 18-19 years old now, you have plenty of time to make plans for the conversion while enjoying your car.

Join your local club there in Dallas/Ft Worth and enjoy the car and their friendship. They will help guide you along too, that is what the club is for. Join now before you start anything with your car, that is when the club is at its best for you. Again, my opinion only and good luck whatever you decide.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: lgoodwin ()
Date: August 22, 2013 04:36AM

Or find a good running engine and swap it in. You can always fix the other engine. Of course, YMMV in this case too! I got a year out of the one i did before something broke. Still waiting for my kid to investigate, as it's his car now. Hoping something simple like a broken rocker arm.

1962 Corvair 900 sedan1967 Corvair Monza 140/4-speed1968 Corvair 500 coupe1983 Mexican Mustang 5.0
1962 900 sedan needs a home1967 Monza 140/4-spd1968 500 coupe (now my son's)1983 Mexican Mustang 5.0

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: August 22, 2013 10:14AM

I agree with steve,I really enjoy driving my 68 140 everyday,its not the fastest, just Fun.Nothing wrong with a Good Corvair engine. Mike

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: jimmyo ()
Date: August 22, 2013 11:17AM

A project like a v8 or v6 vair requires money, the skills, Lots of tools, time, patience, and drive to keep going even when faced with major roadblocks. If your short on any of these things you won't finish it. Just look on craigslist and ebay, you'll see tons of half done project cars.

Jim O'Connor
45 miles north of The Bronx, N.Y.
1962 Greenbrier 110 4spd
1964 Monza Convertible 110 PG
"Wherever you go....There you are"


Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: August 22, 2013 11:35AM

1000 hours is realistic for a well engineered conversion, I attest. Lot's of money will be spent, I attest. Things will break and cost you more time and money, I attest. You will have thrills' a-plenty driving it, I attest.

If you are not prepared to put heart, soul, blood, sweat, tears and gobs of money stay away and build a stock mill.

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: Tom Z ()
Date: August 22, 2013 12:00PM

..if you're starting from a stock Corvair,there's a LOT of work ahead--my 'Crown' mid-4.3 project is still sitting after several years (and lack of parts),fabricating 'unavailable' parts..If you want to keep the back seat a G-body/frame under may be simpler for you..visit [www.v8registry.com] for some members rides,,the site is getting back up

Tom Z,,Rochester NY


Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: August 22, 2013 12:03PM

I've done it so many tunes I bet I could do a Basic crown in a month if the engine and transaxle are already built and I had all the extras.The key is starting with a car that doesn't need anything and your wife and kids are on a long vacation without you! Mike

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: August 22, 2013 12:26PM

v8vair Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I've done it so many tunes I bet I could do a
> Basic crown in a month if the engine and transaxle
> are already built and I had all the extras.The key
> is starting with a car that doesn't need anything
> and your wife and kids are on a long vacation
> without you! Mike


Want to go into business? We can send the wives on vacation for a month and build 2. We can buy a couple of engines from Edelbrock. Anyone care to provide us with 2 Crown transaxles?

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: jimmyo ()
Date: August 22, 2013 01:25PM

I would love to do a V8 vair, but with the unadvailability of parts and the money needed that I don't have, and a wife who already thinks I spend too much time in the garage I don't see it happening. My only chance would be to find one that was cheap and needed sorting out and finishing.

Jim O'Connor
45 miles north of The Bronx, N.Y.
1962 Greenbrier 110 4spd
1964 Monza Convertible 110 PG
"Wherever you go....There you are"


Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 22, 2013 01:53PM

For what it's worth, if you went with a Porsche transmission you don't have to reverse the engine. 4.3 V6 Chevy uses the same adapter as a small-block Chevy and those adapters are common. Be prepared to spend at least $5000 and solve hundreds of little problems. If well done, the end results are awesome.

Mine's a 4.2L V8. If I had chosen the 4.3 V6 instead my conversion would have be a lot simpler. The V8 barely almost nearly didn't quite fit.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Red Monza 2dr 140/4 EFI 60k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Cypress Green Monza 140/4 4dr
65 White 4-dr 110/AC/PG (project)
64 GB -CrUnChEd (donor)
64 Monza coupe (parts)

20 Tons of parts in boxes

Attachments:
Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: jimmyo ()
Date: August 22, 2013 03:11PM

Didn't someone here have a EM sedan with a V6?

Jim O'Connor
45 miles north of The Bronx, N.Y.
1962 Greenbrier 110 4spd
1964 Monza Convertible 110 PG
"Wherever you go....There you are"


Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: August 22, 2013 03:17PM

I have transaxles!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: V6 questions
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: August 22, 2013 03:26PM

v8vair Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have transaxles!


Your place or mine?

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"

Attachments:
Options: ReplyQuote
Pages: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
This forum powered by Phorum.