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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 14, 2014 08:31PM

Update: I didn't work on it very much last week, as I was too tired to do much on it when I got home from work- so basically I expected the best and didn't plan on feeling the worstsmiling smiley! Anyways, today I finished the two ground connections, connected the fuel pump relay coil ground to the SDS computer, re-installed the throttle linkage, re-installed the heater hose that was removed for the heater relay wire installation, and installed the cotter pins for the engine mounts. Once I get the brakes and clutch bled I will have finished the tasks on the underside of the car, and can then put the rear wheels on and get the car back on the ground, for the first time since March (!).
The last things to do before attempting to start the engine are: spark plug
wires installation, cross-over manifold installation, connect the fuel pressure
regulator MAP line, MAP sensor connection, throttle position sensor installation onto the throttle body, and throttle body and manifold install.
Not making any predictions or anything smiling smiley, but Saturday or Sunday next week is sounding pretty darn realistic for a engine start attempt!!

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: September 14, 2014 08:51PM

Kevin, now that you are not under the gun trying to get it to the convention try and get a helper to take a quick video of the start up. I know we would all like to to see it!!

Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 15, 2014 08:12AM

Sam- The video is going to happen- this would be a great excuse for me to get my brand new, never used video camera out and figure out how to use it!

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 20, 2014 02:52PM

One of the hold ups on my project was this little piece, which is the drive tang for the throttle position sensor- this particular one was a part that I got from Ray Sedman, and is one that he makes for use when adapting stock corvair carbs to throttle bodies- I thought that I could adapt one of his for my purposes, and it turned out to not work out well, because the correct location for the set screw when using the weber ends up intersecting the hole location shown in this picture, so I needed to make another drive tang, and then procrastinated on it- finally, yesterday I went ahead and machined up another one, and got it installed one the T/B. This drive tang has a sleeve in it to reduce the inside diameter down to 7mm, for a good fit on the weber. It wasn't until some time later after I installed the sleeve that I found out that the new hole locations were going to intersect.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 20, 2014 02:54PM

Here's some pictures of the drive tang and the TPS installed.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 20, 2014 03:00PM

I could have used Rays drive tang except I would have had to rotate the TPS mount to some angle from straight up, and I didn't like the way it looked like that, and ends up being little more difficult to get the TPS mounted.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: September 20, 2014 07:59PM

You will get it!! I am excited to see how the Webber works as I have one for my Turbo project.

Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 21, 2014 06:43PM

I'm excited to see how that t/b works too!! Here's a couple of pictures showing
some more progress- its amazing how some previously simple tasks get really complicated by adding fuel rails!! I had to stop as I needed to get some more stuff from the hardware store

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 22, 2014 09:15PM

I attempted to mount the throttle body on the manifold tonight, and ran into a unexpected problem- the throttle body wont go on without installing the manifold onto the turbo first, and then mounting the throttle body onto the manifold. Worse than that, there's hardly any room between the fuel pressure regulator and the throttle position sensor. I had test fitted this earlier, a couple of times because I knew it might be kind of close, and I had to clear the bottom mounting bracket, which was originally hitting the FPR. I just didn't realize how close the near miss was, and was in a different spot!! At this point, I'm going to machine the gasket surfaces down as much as possible on the manifold, and perhaps shorten the drive tang and throttle position sensor mounting surfaces at a later date. It looks like I can gain an additional 1/8" just by cutting the gasket surfaces- that will probably be enough for now!

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 22, 2014 09:23PM

One step at a time! gg

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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: September 23, 2014 06:37PM

Yea, that is tight. I had the TPS pictured on the other side but of cores that is where you linkage goes.

Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 23, 2014 08:56PM

I couldn't stand having the TPS on the outside where it could be easily seen, and I couldn't stand how cheezy looking the commercially available kits
that I saw for mounting the TPS on the backside- I just HAD to do better than that!! initial mounting frustrations aside, I'm pretty happy with how it has turned out so far- Today I machined off .100" off the twin end of the gasket surface (TB end of the manifold) and got the TB mounted (plenty of room now!), and nearly completed the throttle linkage assembly. I'm going to get my video camera figured out tonight just in case I get lucky and get that thing started tomorrow!!

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 24, 2014 08:18PM

I finally finished well enough to attempt a start!-it "almost" started a few times. I didn't have time to try and figure out what was up with it, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with not getting enough fuel. It sounded like it was trying to run on only one or 2 cylinders, and never did better than that.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 25, 2014 06:57PM

IT RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!


Wow! It is really amazing the stuff that spins around in ones head about the possibilities for an EFI installation not working! I had last night and all of today to think of what could have possibly gone wrong. Most of them were scarey ones that involved me having to rip out all the wires and starting over again!! Fortunately, I started with simple possibilities first. I knew that it wasn't going to light right off the first time as I did not, intentionally, bleed the lines to the rails, as I wanted to find out what was going happen if I accidently ran it out of gas- so one of the possibilities was that the rails still had air in them. Another thing that I'd noticed was that the fuel pump seemed to stop working at some point during the start attempts- I figured that
the best thing to do was to figure out what was up with that, and the simplest possibility for that was a blown fuse. As soon as I looked at the fuse box and saw the fuses I realized that I had inadvertently installed a way too small fuse on the fuel pump, so I put the right one in, and voila, pump comes on like it is supposed to and shuts off like its supposed to, and just like that,
car starts!!!

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 25, 2014 07:32PM

Great Day!!

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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: September 26, 2014 03:52PM

That is great news. Let us know some more detail about how it runs when you have had time to go over everything.

Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 26, 2014 11:19PM

Sam- I'm planning on doing the video tomorrow when I'm done getting everything fastened down and at least close to being somewhat ready to drive- I can, however give a bit of a preview in that the engine sounded absolutely sweet- no rough running, no puking on gas, no stinky gas smells, good throttle response- I'm sure I will have to fiddle with this further, but for now, pretty darned impressive for initial settings- the engine just sounded so dialed in! I know listening to it parked and actually driving it are way different, but if that car drives anything like it sounds.... its going to be a heck of a lot of fun to drive!!!! I was so relieved to hear it run like that, it could have been a seriously bad deal- there was a lot to worry about.
One thing was that the injectors came out of a low horsepower junkyard 'vette,
Only the lord knows how long those things had been sitting on that engine!
I used them as block offs for years (needed something to keep the bungs blocked off until I was ready to use them!)- I was worried that they were ruined from sitting in the manifold dry all this time, and or had gotten plugged up and or corroded internals from sitting- I never bothered getting them cleaned or even checked to see if they were still operating. I never bothered to even clean the terminals for the connectors on the injectors, so as close to the ocean as I live, that was another reason to worry about "fuel problems" unrelated to possible wiring problems- happily all those worries ended up not being real- at least for now!!! gggg.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 28, 2014 06:24PM

Update- I recorded a video of a start-up, I've not yet been able to upload it
because of computer related problems, and took it out for a test spin shortly thereafter. I'm thinking a in car video is going to have to wait awhile, as it would not make for a very good one, as it is obvious I have some work to do on
the fuel curve, as I have to keep dialing the knob richer the closer I get to
boost- its as though the whole fuel curve is sloped too flat, except right at idle, its a little rich so I have to put the knob near zero. One thing that was interesting though, was it was not jerky or jumpy at all(!) it seemed to feel like all my other efi cars when the knob was set at best power for the current rpm- I don't want to mess with the fuel curve too much until I get a wideband o2 sensor, so it will be awhile for the in-car video.

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 28, 2014 06:32PM

So close!! gg

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Click HERE for My Website...Click HERE for My TechPages!
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Re: My 63 Turbo, daily driver, various project pictures
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: September 29, 2014 08:11PM

Matt- right now, "So close" is reminding me of something my Dad used to say: "Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades!! smiling smiley. It is very frustrating right now, but I know that once I figure it out, it will make me appreciate what I did that much more, from all the work it took to get there! I'm in awe of some of these guy's custom one off efi conversions now because I got a clue as to how hard it really is to do it!

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Kevin Nash
Friday Harbor Washington
63 Spyder, Daily driver, EFI read about my project here: [corvaircenter.com]
first test start on EFI here:[www.youtube.com]
first official EFI boost test here:[www.youtube.com]
My new fan! [corvaircenter.com]
engine less 62 Spyder
Canadian 64 Monza Parts car
Test Start#2 [www.youtube.com]



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