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Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: ElkyBob ()
Date: February 04, 2012 05:38AM

Just saw this on page 46 of Clark's latest supplement just received last week. Has anyone used one of these? How hard is it to install? What kind of reliability does it get? What kind of improvements, if any, does it provide? I realize $1500 is a bit much, but could be worth it. I had a 71 square back VW wagon in Germany with fuel injection and that thing was trouble free and ran great as long as I had it.

Bob Ponder in Tenino WA


1962 Vair Vert/102 4 spd w/EFI
1959 El Camino w/348 5 speed
1987 El Camino w/350 auto
2000 Ford F150
2005 Chrysler 300C

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: cooterr ()
Date: February 04, 2012 05:43AM

This system was developed and tested by Ted Brown who posts here often. Do a search and you will find a lot of info on this system.

Tom Miller
Performance Corvair Group
Circle City Corvairs
Corsa

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: February 04, 2012 05:49AM

Thought that was Ted Browns Kit being sold by clarks?

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: friedfish80 ()
Date: February 04, 2012 06:12AM

1500 is about averavge for a efi kit.

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: ElkyBob ()
Date: February 04, 2012 07:31AM

Thanks Tom, I will do the search to learn more about it. I knew Ted had developed a fuel injection system, but did not know it is the same thing Clark's is selling.

Bob Ponder in Tenino WA


1962 Vair Vert/102 4 spd w/EFI
1959 El Camino w/348 5 speed
1987 El Camino w/350 auto
2000 Ford F150
2005 Chrysler 300C

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: Scott V ()
Date: February 04, 2012 09:25AM

friedfish80 Wrote:
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> 1500 is about averavge for a efi kit.

how do you figure? other examples of vair tbi kits?

-Scott V.

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: 4carbcorvair ()
Date: February 04, 2012 11:47AM

Corvair owners are cheap. Tbi injection kits for other makes, that have larger followings, start around $1,000 and go up from there. This is for a Corvair and has two tbis. Two adapters and a few other things that are Corvair specific. $1,500 is a fair price.

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: Johnniespeed ()
Date: February 04, 2012 12:32PM

I agree with Ronnie, Corvair owners are cheap. That image is obvious at car shows, as several Corvairs will have poor bodywork and ripped seats. It is a tarnished image for those Corvair owners who have premium restorations.
I dont know how to repair that image, but I hope that each Corvair owner could at least attempt to conceal that charactor defect,as it affects everyone, in a negative way.
Back on point, Ted has done a wonderful job, I have not tried his product, but hope it will be an overwhelming success. $1500 is cheap, Ted will not recoup payment for his R&D time. Thanks Ted for all your work. Very few Corvair owners will work for hundreds of hours for free, to improve the Corvair community.

John

1962 Rampside
Powered by Injected Vortec 4.3

Sunny Suburban Sparta Michigan.

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: February 04, 2012 04:14PM

I was really surprised at the price too - it's a bargain! It's amazing to be able to purchase a direct-fit kit developed for our small market. I'd buy one except that I already have two EFI motors. I've converted about 20 cars to EFI and most of the kits I've purchased were in the $2500 range. Bravo Ted!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Red Monza 2dr 140/4 EFI 60k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Cypress Green Monza 140/4 4dr
65 White 4-dr 110/AC/PG (parts)
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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: BritCars ()
Date: February 04, 2012 04:26PM

John,

Guilty as charged, however, it's far more important to get your car structurally and mechanically sound before wasting money on cosmetics. I'm quite willing to spend hard earned money to get the car to run, stop and handle well before I worry about how I appear to potential owners.

Sorry if my Corvair leaves a bad impression with those who don't know anything about them, but even in its ratty cosmetic condition, it still draws attention of all ages because of its lines and clever engineering smiling smiley.

As for the fuel injection kit, it's a neat idea but unless I lived in a state whose emission standards required its precision, I would leave my newly-rebuilt carbs on the car because it's part of the enjoyment of running a classic car.

Jeff

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Vinalhaven, Maine 04863
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'66 Land Rover Series II-A 88" SW
'66 Land Rover Series II-A 88" HT
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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: February 04, 2012 06:10PM

There is more to EFI than just emissions. It will be smother running it will idle better it will have more power for the same engine and the list goes on.

It's not just about NEW carbs. It is a personal preference on what you want to do with your car.

Ken Hand
CORSA Central Division Director
CORSA Treasurer
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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: February 04, 2012 07:07PM

Aside from lower emissions, better fuel economy, cleaner operation, longer engine life, self-diagnosis, and fast starting, what are the supposed benefits anyway? GGG

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Red Monza 2dr 140/4 EFI 60k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Cypress Green Monza 140/4 4dr
65 White 4-dr 110/AC/PG (parts)
64 GB -CrUnChEd (donor)


20 Tons of parts in boxes

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: 52bagman ()
Date: February 04, 2012 07:18PM

Look at Teds video of the engine running, no shake rattle and roll, can't even tell it's running except for the fan turning.

Sam C. Saunders,Pt. Pleasant WV
68 500 cp 95 pg ash gold
66 Monza cp 110 4spd black
68 500 cp 95 3spd blue "DAIRY QUEEN CAR"

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: Spectre ()
Date: February 04, 2012 07:30PM

I've seen Ted's car at Springfest in Helen...runs great.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible - 140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

2013 Mustang GT convertible - 5.0, 6spd auto

2003 Miata SE - 6spd manual (wife's toy)

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Warner Robins, GA (15 miles south of Macon)

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: February 04, 2012 07:45PM

I plan to install Ted's EFI system in the 69 vert.

IMHO, the price is a downright bargain, especially when one considers that this system was designed, created and perfected by an actual Corvair owner!

60,000 miles of testing is nothing to sneeze at!

Thanks Tedsmileys with beer

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
CORSA Eastern Division Director

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: February 04, 2012 10:04PM

Having owned and repaired a few cars with EFI systems I have to say that $1,500 for a NEW bolt on system seems quite reasonable, then again when someone buys a running Corvair for $3,000.00 (or less), then $1,500.00 seems like a lot of money.

I don't knock the cheap Vair guys. At least they are keeping Corvairs out of the crusher and maybe their cars will find a better home at a later time.

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: mwr ()
Date: February 04, 2012 10:34PM

If I didn't have a turbo I'd already have ordered this. Great work Ted.

Come to think of it, I wonder if you make this work with a blow through setup..

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: zarfnober ()
Date: February 04, 2012 11:57PM

The few setups I've seen for blow thru turbos with tbi can only handle around 6-8psi.

check out Blackhawks setup, which was discussed at length recently.

Rocco

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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: February 05, 2012 12:06AM

I think that is a great price for a bolt on kit!thumbs up



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Re: Clark's Fuel Injection Kit
Posted by: Scott V ()
Date: February 05, 2012 12:29AM

mwr Wrote:
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> Come to think of it, I wonder if you make this
> work with a blow through setup..

i dont think the ecu is setup to read boost. you/ted/someone *may* be able to remap the ecu tables to work w/a 2 bar map sensor.

a local guy i know remaps gm ecus for the ty/sy guys & they run 25 psi boost.

-Scott V.

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