Just saw this on page 46 of Clark's latest supplement just received last week. Has anyone used one of these? How hard is it to install? What kind of reliability does it get? What kind of improvements, if any, does it provide? I realize $1500 is a bit much, but could be worth it. I had a 71 square back VW wagon in Germany with fuel injection and that thing was trouble free and ran great as long as I had it.

Bob Ponder in Tenino WA


1962 Corvair Convertible w/102 4 speed
1959 El Camino w/348 5 speed
1987 El Camino w/350 auto
2000 Ford F150
2005 Chrysler 300C

This system was developed and tested by Ted Brown who posts here often. Do a search and you will find a lot of info on this system.

Tom Miller
Performance Corvair Group
Circle City Corvairs
Corsa

Thought that was Ted Browns Kit being sold by clarks?

1500 is about averavge for a efi kit.

Thanks Tom, I will do the search to learn more about it. I knew Ted had developed a fuel injection system, but did not know it is the same thing Clark's is selling.

Bob Ponder in Tenino WA


1962 Corvair Convertible w/102 4 speed
1959 El Camino w/348 5 speed
1987 El Camino w/350 auto
2000 Ford F150
2005 Chrysler 300C

friedfish80 Wrote:
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> 1500 is about averavge for a efi kit.

how do you figure? other examples of vair tbi kits?

-Scott V.

Corvair owners are cheap. Tbi injection kits for other makes, that have larger followings, start around $1,000 and go up from there. This is for a Corvair and has two tbis. Two adapters and a few other things that are Corvair specific. $1,500 is a fair price.

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Southern Maine.
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66 Corsa Convertible, 140, 4sp.




It doesn't leak, it's marking it's territory.

I agree with Ronnie, Corvair owners are cheap. That image is obvious at car shows, as several Corvairs will have poor bodywork and ripped seats. It is a tarnished image for those Corvair owners who have premium restorations.
I dont know how to repair that image, but I hope that each Corvair owner could at least attempt to conceal that charactor defect,as it affects everyone, in a negative way.
Back on point, Ted has done a wonderful job, I have not tried his product, but hope it will be an overwhelming success. $1500 is cheap, Ted will not recoup payment for his R&D time. Thanks Ted for all your work. Very few Corvair owners will work for hundreds of hours for free, to improve the Corvair community.

John

The thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.
Vortec powered Rampside.
Sparta Michigan.

I was really surprised at the price too - it's a bargain! It's amazing to be able to purchase a direct-fit kit developed for our small market. I'd buy one except that I already have two EFI motors. I've converted about 20 cars to EFI and most of the kits I've purchased were in the $2500 range. Bravo Ted!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4-dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Monza 140/4 EFI 60k
65 4-dr 110/AC/PG (project)
61 Rampside
62 Rampside (almost done!)
64 GB -CrUnChEd (donor)

20 Tons of parts in boxes

John,

Guilty as charged, however, it's far more important to get your car structurally and mechanically sound before wasting money on cosmetics. I'm quite willing to spend hard earned money to get the car to run, stop and handle well before I worry about how I appear to potential owners.

Sorry if my Corvair leaves a bad impression with those who don't know anything about them, but even in its ratty cosmetic condition, it still draws attention of all ages because of its lines and clever engineering .

As for the fuel injection kit, it's a neat idea but unless I lived in a state whose emission standards required its precision, I would leave my newly-rebuilt carbs on the car because it's part of the enjoyment of running a classic car.

Jeff

Jeff Aronson
Vinalhaven, Maine 04863
'66 Corvair Monza Coupe 110 hp 4-speed
'66 Land Rover Series II-A 88" SW
'66 Land Rover Series II-A 88" HT
'80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
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There is more to EFI than just emissions. It will be smother running it will idle better it will have more power for the same engine and the list goes on.

It's not just about NEW carbs. It is a personal preference on what you want to do with your car.

Ken Hand
248 613 8586
[www.corvairmechanic.com]

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Aside from lower emissions, better fuel economy, cleaner operation, longer engine life, self-diagnosis, and fast starting, what are the supposed benefits anyway? GGG

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4-dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Monza 140/4 EFI 60k
65 4-dr 110/AC/PG (project)
61 Rampside
62 Rampside (almost done!)
64 GB -CrUnChEd (donor)

20 Tons of parts in boxes

Look at Teds video of the engine running, no shake rattle and roll, can't even tell it's running except for the fan turning.

Sam C. Saunders,Pt. Pleasant WV
68 500 cp 95 pg ash gold
66 Monza cp 110 4spd black
68 500 cp 95 3spd blue "DAIRY QUEEN CAR"

I've seen Ted's car at Springfest in Helen...runs great.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible
140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

"Victory is mine!" - SG

Warner Robins, GA (15 miles south of Macon)

I plan to install Ted's EFI system in the 69 vert.

IMHO, the price is a downright bargain, especially when one considers that this system was designed, created and perfected by an actual Corvair owner!

60,000 miles of testing is nothing to sneeze at!

Thanks Ted

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia

I am a third generation Corvair owner!

1962 Rampside - Undergoing 100% brake system overhaul to include front discs
1964 Monza Convertible - WHITE - In pieces awaiting restoration
1969 Monza Convertible - AZTEC BRONZE - Installing Brown EFI & finishing rear suspension...

Having owned and repaired a few cars with EFI systems I have to say that $1,500 for a NEW bolt on system seems quite reasonable, then again when someone buys a running Corvair for $3,000.00 (or less), then $1,500.00 seems like a lot of money.

I don't knock the cheap Vair guys. At least they are keeping Corvairs out of the crusher and maybe their cars will find a better home at a later time.

If I didn't have a turbo I'd already have ordered this. Great work Ted.

Come to think of it, I wonder if you make this work with a blow through setup..

The few setups I've seen for blow thru turbos with tbi can only handle around 6-8psi.

check out Blackhawks setup, which was discussed at length recently.

Rocco

I think that is a great price for a bolt on kit!



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mwr Wrote:
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> Come to think of it, I wonder if you make this
> work with a blow through setup..

i dont think the ecu is setup to read boost. you/ted/someone *may* be able to remap the ecu tables to work w/a 2 bar map sensor.

a local guy i know remaps gm ecus for the ty/sy guys & they run 25 psi boost.

-Scott V.