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First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: November 05, 2011 05:05PM

Just a little trivia.

The first American made, flat six rear engine, automobile was a 1948 TUCKER.

O.K. technically Tucker folded, but he did build the minimum number of cars to qualify for his loans.

So the Corvair is the first mass produced American flat six rear engine car (and the last).

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: November 05, 2011 05:12PM

Pretty well know fact around old Vair folks but maybe some new owners were not aware.

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: November 05, 2011 05:26PM

But the Tucker was water cooled. Corvairs have always had the distinction of being the only air cooled American flat six.

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: November 05, 2011 06:14PM

Brizo Wrote:
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> But the Tucker was water cooled. Corvairs have
> always had the distinction of being the only air
> cooled American flat six.

Ironically, the Tucker engine was first an air cooled aviation design before it was purchased by Tucker and adapted to be water cooled.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2011 06:14PM by azdave.

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: November 05, 2011 06:15PM

Technically speaking, the Tucker engine was air-cooled. It was a Franklin O-335/6AC, made by AirCooled Motors for the Bell 47 helicopter.

The Franklin Automobile Company began making cars with air-cooled engines in 1901. They didn't survive the depression, but the former employees continued the company as AirCooled Motors, making aircraft engines.

Actually they made several air-cooled aircraft engines including those for the Aero-Flight Streak, Bartlett Zephyr, Bell 47, Bellanca Cruisair, Brantly B-1, Goodyear Duck, H-23 Raven, Hiller 360, Seibel S-4, Sikorsky S-52, Stinson Voyager, Taylorcraft 15, Temco TE-1B, and the YT-35 Buckaroo.

Tucker did modify it to water-cooled, but after Tucker folded, AirCooled went back to making air-cooled engines and eventually was renamed the Franklin Engine Co.

You should read about Franklin. Franklin Automobile

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: Johnniespeed ()
Date: November 05, 2011 07:44PM

A few years back I was confused why an engine from the Air Cooled factory was in the Tucker and the Tucker had a radiator. So I crawled under a Tucker ar the Red Barn Museum and sure enough there were water jacketed cylinders on that Tucker engine.
Then I read about Howard Hughes telling Preston Tucker that the air cooled engine factory was available for sale, after the big three refused to sell Preston any engines.
The American made Jeep for the Marines, M-422 ( Mighty Mite ) had an air cooled V-4 that Chrysler made. Not horizontally opposed and not a six, but did have chrome plated aluminum cylinders. Pretty cool for a 50's design.

John



Snowy Sparta Michigan.

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: FLSteve ()
Date: November 05, 2011 08:03PM

But Corvair were the first mass produced production car made technically air cool or water cooled. Tuckers did not make it into full production.

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: gmorphan ()
Date: November 05, 2011 08:14PM

Johnniespeed Wrote:
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> ...and sure enough there were water jacketed cylinders on that Tucker engine.


That's because everyone knows that air cooling doesn't work. grinning smileywinking smiley

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: November 05, 2011 09:57PM

Yes the Tucker was water cooled. However, as far as I've learned, it is the only other American, rear engined, flat six, car that was every made.

If the Corvair had survived the engine would have probably been redesigned for water cooling, just like Porsche had to do as a way to meet modern emission standards.

Then again if the Corvair had remained in production I don't think it would be as special as it is now. Truly an unique American automobile.

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:59PM

Just to throw one out there...
Modern Corvair iegine could have been....
Honda GL 1800 Goldwing.
6 cyl opposed. chain driven Overhaead cams, fuel injection with two throttle bodies and yes... water cooled. 1800cc + 110 cubic inches and 108hp.... Dern close!!!

Corventure Dave

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Re: First Amerian flat 6 rear engine car was NOT Corvair
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: November 08, 2011 04:36PM

Damn... my spellings sockz!

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