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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: truckin-on ()
Date: August 25, 2013 08:18PM

Thanks for the additional info on L113516 Bigwave, I'll add it to the roster!

Apparently the body numbers were sequential by type in LA. I didn't realize this (or had forgotten), as I believe for the WRN cars, the body number is sequential regardles of coupe or convert, at least it is for the '69s.

Does anyone know if the body number was sequential regardless of trim? ie, for Bigwave's '66 Corsa, was it the 387th Corvair Convertible or the 387th Corsa Convertible?

Dave

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: August 25, 2013 08:27PM

I have a bare bones 66 corsa with 140,I will look at the tag tomorrow and let you guys now what it is?







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1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: August 26, 2013 03:59AM

Dave, this thread is so old, you already did a few pages back!

Mike
YS-117

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa convertible - last one?
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: August 26, 2013 07:30PM

Wow
I just check the sellers ebay auction today and the seller has now added the following to the auction:


"I just had emails declaring this the last turbo produced from the Los Angeles production line. It has a date code of 03D, which means it was made the 4th week of March 1966 and it has now been added to the registry"


Unfortunately this is how misinformation gets propagated out on the internet.
The 66 Corsa Turbo vert registry has 80 cars on it which is approx 13.6% of the estimated total of 585 cars. There are six cars on the registry alone that were built after the car listed on eBay, and thats from a list consisting of only 13.6% of the estimated Turbo verts built in 1966.

The car on ebay is a very nice late production LA built Turbo vert, but not the "last" Turbo built in LA. I emailed the seller the last LA built Turbo vert was built in first or second week of April, and hopefully no one will be misinformed about what they are buying.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/2013 07:32PM by Bigwave.

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: August 26, 2013 07:32PM

Mike Stillwell Wrote:
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> Dave, this thread is so old, you already did a few
> pages back!
>
> Mike
> YS-117
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Good! Because I forgot to do it today! Man the Oldtimers is kicking my ass!drinking smiley







1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: August 26, 2013 07:42PM

Body numbers are specific to body style. That means 387th Corsa Convertible, and not 387th Convertible. So in 1966, there are Seven different body styles all with there own body number series. Vin numbers on the other hand are sequential regardless of body style. So # 100001 could be a 500 sedan, and 100002 could be a Corsa coupe. You have to remember that Fisher body is seperate from Chevrolet, and the body numbers are done on the Fisher side and the Vins are assigned on the Chevrolet side.

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: truckin-on ()
Date: August 26, 2013 09:29PM

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Bigwave
Body numbers are specific to body style.

Was this unique to LA Fisher Body do you know? As with WRN, at least in '69, the body numbers are sequential regardless of model, body style or trim. In the '69 Registry, we have body numbers from 100221 (#402) to 399009 (#5622).

I would have to agree on the body numbers being specific to the style and model in LA, as it's quite believeable that about 15% of the 66 Corsa converts, and about 20% of the Corsa coupes, were built at LA.

Dave

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa convertible - last one?
Posted by: chuckvh ()
Date: August 27, 2013 06:14AM

Where is the 66 Turbo Vert registry? I don't think I've ever added mine to it.

Thanks

Chuck vonHofen
Brentwood, California

66 Corsa Turbo Convertible
64 Spyder Convertible
64 Spyder Coupe
62 Monza Convertible
Amazingly Patient Wife

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: Mike Stillwell ()
Date: August 27, 2013 06:28AM

Going back over the thread, I realized I never added our A/C Corsa - originally Aztec Bronze/AB, now black, 140/4/Posi, tinted glass, deluxe belts, #L106183.

Mike
YS-117

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: glivorsi ()
Date: August 27, 2013 07:49AM

What dictated whether a car was LA built or Willow Run? Was it geographic? Were west coast dealers supplied with LA built cars, and midwest and east coast dealers supplied from Willow Run?

Greg in Wildwood, MO (part of the St. Louis urban sprawl)

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: August 27, 2013 09:05PM

1969 was a special case as the Corvair was being phased out and were built on the same line as Novas that year at Fisher body. So the body numbers are sequential regardless of model style or whether it was a Corvair or Nova, and was suppose to start at 100001 and ended around 389000s during Corvair production. I have a rubbing of a 1969 Corvair Vin 105379W700003 whose body number is listed as a "5" not 100005. Also the body number 399009 (#5622) seems wrong as my copy of fingertip facts pg 3 says the numbers run up to 389000s, but I have an older copy. Does your copy say the numbers now go up to 399000s during corvair production?

Anyway

From 1960 till 1968 body number was specific to body style at all US Fisher body plants building Corvairs. That includes Willow Run, Kansas City, Oakland and Van Nuys.

Dave You're estimates seem high. Quote: "15% of the 66 Corsa converts, and about 20% of the Corsa coupes, were built at LA" Since a fire destroyed the actual paperwork that listed production numbers broken down by model, the only numbers available are total production by plant.

1966 Total production US: 103743
Willow Run: 89740
Van Nuys: 14003
so 13.49% of 1966 Corvairs were built in Van Nuys

To Answer glivosi's question it does appear that the majority of Van Nuys and Oakland cars ended up on the West Coast.

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: mwr ()
Date: August 27, 2013 09:47PM

glivorsi Wrote:
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> What dictated whether a car was LA built or Willow
> Run? Was it geographic? Were west coast dealers
> supplied with LA built cars, and midwest and east
> coast dealers supplied from Willow Run?

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case. My '63 is a Willow Run car and it was sold new in... Oakland!

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: truckin-on ()
Date: August 27, 2013 10:30PM

Fun stuff!

I was basing my percentages on the following logic. There were 7330 total '66 Corsa Coupes. My '66 Corsa is LA body number 1457. If 1457 represents sequentuial Corsa Coupe production in LA, it's about 20% of the total of 7330. And it's not likely it was the last, as it was 03C build. Using the same logic, assuming #387 was close to the last Corsa convert built in LA, it would account for about 12% of the total. Wonder what drove the build decisions between the various plants?

As to the '69 question, the most current data is from the '69 Registry. As far as late build body numbers, I have the following:
VIN Model Body #
5081 10537 390510
5505 10537 395581
5622 10137 399009

So the last body we have documented is #399009.

Dave

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Date: August 28, 2013 02:04AM

I've got a 1966 Corsa HT Coupe with the 140 - It was originally sold in Santa Barbara at Washburn Chevrolet. Strangely, it was built in Willow Run and shipped out to California - with the required in California only A.I.R. "Clean Air" engine.
Does not make much sense to me! Why wouldn't the new Corvairs that required the special engine get built in California? They were shipping all the engines - since they were all built in Tonawanda, NY to both plants. It makes logistical sense to me that all those A.I.R. engines would wind up in Van Nuys (LOS) to be installed in cars to be sold in California.
But apparently that did not happen.


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: August 28, 2013 05:07PM

Your logic makes sense, so it would seem that if 13.49% of overall 1966 production was from LA, then it appears that Corsa coupes production were a bit higher than the overall average, and the verts were a bit below the overall average.

Bigwave Dave Trull, Sierra Vista Arizona
Former owner 1966 Turbo Convertible Pilots 23 & 27
Former owner 1969 Convertible #5997

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: August 28, 2013 08:07PM

truckin-on Wrote:
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> Fun stuff!
>
> I was basing my percentages on the following
> logic. There were 7330 total '66 Corsa Coupes.
> My '66 Corsa is LA body number 1457. If 1457
> represents sequentuial Corsa Coupe production in
> LA, it's about 20% of the total of 7330. And it's
> not likely it was the last, as it was 03C build.

Steve sez: (snipped a bunch above) my 66 140 Corsa cpe is LA body #1526 and 03D
You guys already know that, just thought I would add it to the current conversation to show how the numbers vs prod dates were going.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: 66corsa ()
Date: August 29, 2013 07:50PM

in fact the plant was in van nuys ca. part of the city of l.a. we did all our street racing along the side street at the v.n. gm plant. every wed and sat night cruse that is until l.a. pd closed it down . those were the good times and good memories. and after corvairs they switched that plant to Camaros and now it,s a shopping mall. time marches on.

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Date: February 08, 2014 05:43PM

Just a bump. Here is the link to the online Registry of 1966 Corsas built at Van Nuys (LOS)
If you have one or know of one, please add it to the list with at least the V.I.N. in chronological order. I just posted the one on eBay 2/2/14


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Posted by: chuckvh ()
Date: February 08, 2014 07:27PM

Something just occurred to me concerning body numbers and body styles. Since the Corsa 140 bodies were different than the Corsa Turbo bodies (Exhaust cutout on turbos), was there ever a point in either 65 or 66 where the body number sequence was based on body style and engine option? In other words, my 66 Turbo vert is body #98. Is it possible that there is a Corsa 140 vert with body #98? I expect not, but thought I'd ask.

Chuck vonHofen
Brentwood, California

66 Corsa Turbo Convertible
64 Spyder Convertible
64 Spyder Coupe
62 Monza Convertible
Amazingly Patient Wife

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Re: 1966 LOS-built Corsa coupes
Date: February 08, 2014 08:04PM

Hmm, don't think so. The L87 turbo-charged engine option is indicated on the Fisher Body ID plate (4O) because of the body mod (build body with different rear valence panel, add engine overheat buzzer, fuel return lines)


Dan Davis ~ Pierce County, WA ~ CORSA Western Director + Corvairs NW + North Cascades Corvairs + Corvanatics
1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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