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EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: Mark M ()
Date: December 22, 2010 10:50AM

My rebuild begins right after Christmas and I have learned so much from searching here that I want to start this thread for future reference by others.

First question: After pulling tires, wheels and brake lines, should I drop it as a unit or in pieces? Mainly I am thinking about the springs. Easier to pull them while on or off the car? I have FLAPS spring compressor that I used before, although I know many of you don't bother with one.

I will update with photos as project progresses.

Mark M
Project: 64 Spyder Vert running 80 hp heads and carbs
1st Vair: 65 Corsa 140
St. Louis, MO
Show Me Corvair Club &
CORSA member

"If it's not broken, you're not driving it hard enough"



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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: bought1 ()
Date: December 22, 2010 11:19AM

I for one will be eager to follow your rebuild! I would imagine its easier to drop the whole unit and then remove the springs with a spring compressor.

Dave

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: John Luscinski ()
Date: December 22, 2010 11:32AM

Dont drop the crossmember down yet. Remove springs before you drop the crossmember and you can still remove the linkage and brake lines. It is easier to remove the springs this way if you had the crossmember out and removed the springs they might pop out at you. Safety Hazard. Then do the reverse. Some on here might say different.

"Been there and done that! Well Not everything.smiling smiley
65 500 2dr Coupe
63 Greenbrier

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:08PM

I made A special tool out of a long all thread that you put in place of the shock absorber that makes it easy to remove/replace the springs when the entire cross member is out of the car,,for me its just easyer to drop the entire thing and work on it out of the car.

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: Gregory_Miller ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:10PM

Davemoto, you are the man. I hoist my flannel shirt in honor of you, and your ingenious devices. Work smarter, not harder, I say with gusto!

Greg Miller
Eugene, Oregon

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:14PM

Geee Thanks Greg! I spend almost as much time making tools as working on my cars!! GGG

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: Gregory_Miller ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:20PM

..at least then the NEXT time, you have the cool tool all ready. Problem is when it's a unique fix each time requiring a new tool.

Greg Miller
Eugene, Oregon

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:22PM

I also made a threaded rod tool when I bench built the front end for the Crown car. I used a old cut spring and checked the range of motion for my rack & pinion steering plus a whole lot of other things.

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: lostbooger ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:26PM

I removed the springs with the unit off and that was easy enough and I didnt feel that it was really dangerous at the time. However putting them back in with the rack off the car was a terrible idea. I was able to do it but I was hateing life. Also made me scratch up my nice paint job sad smiley.

Damian


61 Monza 4.3L V6


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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: dsallean ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:33PM

Damian,

Looks nice! And I agree, put the springs back in with the suspension in the car. Much less stressful.

David in TX

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:38PM

Unless??? You have the special All thread tool!! Then its easy as pie out of the car!smoking smiley How did you scratch the paint if it was out of the car?





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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: John Luscinski ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:47PM

I never needed any special tools only a jack to hold the spring pressure under the A arm while the cross memeber was up. No stinking cables or chains or anything else.grinning smiley Think smarter no Extra tools need.

"Been there and done that! Well Not everything.smiling smiley
65 500 2dr Coupe
63 Greenbrier

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: December 22, 2010 12:50PM

I use a jack when its in the car,,,I like Tools!!grinning smiley

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: vairchet ()
Date: December 22, 2010 04:27PM

Here ya go, couple photos of 7/16ths all thread rod in use complete with thrust bearing:

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: December 23, 2010 04:28AM

Drop the whole thing. The "special tool" I used was a threaded rod with washers and nuts on each end. Zero investment, as all parts were lying around.

Much easier to drop the whole thing, clean, paint, assemble and raise.
My original suspension and the replacement before I disassembled it.


Ready for assembly


Compressing springs with my brother-in-law


Raising it all back into place


Lots more pics on my site.

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: swi66 ()
Date: December 23, 2010 05:02AM

Last year I did an early front suspension that was already off, so it would be ready to swap into a car.
I was able to compress the springs enough to hook up the ball joints with this huge "C" clamp I had laying around.
May not have been the safest, but it wasn't real bad either.

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Date: December 23, 2010 05:39AM

The only part of my car which is not disassembled is the front end, everything was nice and tight, so I just cleaned and painted it in-situ. Looking at the beautiful photos has me considering removal and restoration!

Corey Pedersen
Amston, CT
1962 Monza 102 HP Convertible - Restoration Complete
1964 VW Beetle - Restoration Complete
1981 Chevy C-20 - Better Than New!
1951 MG-TD - Newest Addition
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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: December 23, 2010 05:39AM

All of you that removed the whole crossmember must have had better luck with the four caged nut than I envision I'm going to have.

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: December 23, 2010 06:06AM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> All of you that removed the whole crossmember must
> have had better luck with the four caged nut than
> I envision I'm going to have.


Gallons of penatrating oil, soak time, clean off the undercoating from the bolts, a good quality 6 piont socket powered by a impact wrench and you may just get lucky.

I both tighten and loosen the bolts in short bursts with the impact gun, I feel this gives you a better chance of sucess.

Good luck and say your prayers.

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"

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Re: EM front suspension rebuild project
Posted by: red64vair ()
Date: December 23, 2010 06:43AM

If you are replacing suspension bushings I suggest before jacking the car up, place a locater mark on the spring tower relative to the upper control arm. This will allow you to place the control arms in the same position before tightening the bushing bolts. The rubber bushings will now have no torque on them when the weight is on the suspension. This is just my thinking

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