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65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: July 21, 2006 05:48PM

noticed a lot of play in my steering wheel, the front end is tight with no looseness anywhere

[www.corvair.com]

is this the best steering rebuild kit available? or is there aftermarket available...

when i fully turn to the left or the right and roll slowly around in a cirle, one of the wheels is always skidding/slipping at all times... so i think (??) that means i have quick steering, dunno, dont have another vair to referece my steering arms to.

also not sure if i have long shaft or short shaft, will that make a difference when i order parts?






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2006 05:48PM by Tommy.

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65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Steve O ()
Date: July 22, 2006 01:28AM

1)AFAIK, the Clark's kit is the ONLY kit available today to rebuild steering boxes with new parts.
2)Clark's is the only Corvair parts vendor with new bearings (C1645) and races (C1646) available.
3)If this is for your '65, you have a short shaft steering box - makes no difference with the parts you are talking about ordering.

Are you sure that you don't just have a bad pitman arm bushing or idler arm or that your steering box just doesn't need to be adjusted? Any or all of those items match the description of "lot of play at the steering wheel".

ps - For the "ultimate" solution to steering box problems, get a new Flaming River "fast ratio" steering box! Available from Seth Emerson - sethracer@aol.com

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Russell in B'ham ()
Date: July 22, 2006 02:35AM

Welcome to slop from worm and ball boxes. You will NEVER get all the slop out. Rebuild it and see. You will still have 2" of steering wheel movement (measured at the perimeter) no matter what you do. Ask your Granddaddy! He cant drive a rack&pinion down the road in a straight line!

Sorry!

Russell

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: July 22, 2006 03:55AM

I've got WAY more than 2" slop. I'll measure it right now...

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 22, 2006 04:26AM

Tommy Wrote:
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> I've got WAY more than 2" slop. I'll measure it
> right now...
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Have you done the adjustment proceedure? Makes a BIG difference.

Last year we took a super sloppy box...someone had a manual.....did exactly what they said...and it was fine!

Requires Steering wheel removal....


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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: July 22, 2006 07:15PM


> Have you done the adjustment proceedure?

searched the forum, only found some partial references to steering adjustment such as...

[corvaircenter.com]

what is the proper adjustment procedure?

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Re: Steering box adjustment
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 22, 2006 07:48PM

I don't any stinkin manuals!! ggg

As I recall:

back out upper adj. screw a few turns

Wheels straight ahead

Remove steering wheel

Adjust nut on END of box until 5 INCH POUNDS of resistance is seen on shaft.

Now adjust upper to get final freeplay....

NOTE: on several..I've seen burrs or something that makes this adjuster seem tight.....use a large screwdriver and force it as long as it still moves....until NO freeplay is felt..then back off slightly[?]

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: cj ()
Date: August 01, 2006 01:40AM

I'm just learning about corvairs, and not sure what to use when loosing the
worm lock nut on steering box. the best I can see it's the large notched ring around the adjustment nut.

From reading some of the notes on this page, someone mentioned the steering box was easy to rebuild, what's your opion?

Can someone advise?

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65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Steve O ()
Date: August 01, 2006 02:09AM

The lock nut (ring) has some notches in it - use a large screwdriver (better, a small chisel) - put the blade into one of the notches, and tap lightly with a hammer to get the locking ring to move counter-clockwise and loosen.

Steering boxes are not necessarily hard to rebuild - the problem comes in not knowing whether or not your box has good parts to re-use and whether or not the output shaft bore is corroded too badly to not re-use (common problem). Most internal parts are now available from vendors but if the output shaft is worn then the newly rebuilt box will leak all of the new lube onto your clean driveway...

So - take your chance with rebuilding your box, buy a rebuilt box from one of the vendors, or buy a new Flaming River box....your choice!

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: August 01, 2006 02:32AM

that flamin river box looks tits. especially since its about the same price as the clarks unit.

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65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Steve O ()
Date: August 01, 2006 04:39AM

Best feature of the Flaming River box is the faster ratio, even without the fast steering arms.

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Re: Steering box adjustment
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: August 05, 2006 12:45AM

Matt Nall Wrote:

> NOTE: on several..I've seen burrs or something
> that makes this adjuster seem tight.....use a
> large screwdriver and force it as long as it still
> moves....until NO freeplay is felt..then back off
> slightly[?]

holy crap that was easy. took about 60 seconds. steering is great now. at least i can buy a tranny & diff instead of a steering box

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Reconfused smileyteering box adjustment Success!
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: August 05, 2006 02:09AM

AHH glad to hear that.........someone likes me tonight!! gggg

ps 66 Turbo only has QS box...3.5 L to L

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Re: Reconfused smileyteering box adjustment Success!
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: August 05, 2006 02:12AM

is there a grease-fill hole on the box? is it under the car?

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: August 05, 2006 02:48AM

plug on top......just force grease in with a gun...

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Russell in B'ham ()
Date: August 05, 2006 03:59AM

Bet you still have 2" of perimeter play!


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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: Tommy ()
Date: August 05, 2006 03:48PM

Before it was bad enough that any type of major bump would @#$%& over the steering and make the car wander.

Then it started just wandering around on the highway. Switching lanes even if the wheel was dead on.

Now, got about 2" to 1.5" free play, and it feels great.

Thanks Matt!

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Re: 65-69 STEERING BOX REBUILD KITS KIT WITH RACES - C10882R
Posted by: TIBCO ()
Date: August 10, 2006 02:46AM

Can someone clarify this 1.5-2" of play. Is this really the norm. For the record, I just put in one of the Flaming River boxes from Seth, AND a brand new idler arm. PO replaced the pitman bushing with nylon, Everything is tight on the bottom, but I do have a full 2" of play at the wheel. I laid on my back this evening and rocked the steering shaft back and forth by hand and the pitman arm is not moving at all. The play is definitely in the box. Should there be this much?

Thanks,

Cliff Tibbitts
Lexington, KY
CORSA, CKCE
66 Monza, 140/4sp

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Re: Freeplay at steering wheel outer rim
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: August 10, 2006 03:21AM

2" is not bad..you can adjust it for a little less....

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Re: Freeplay at steering wheel outer rim
Posted by: Russell ()
Date: August 10, 2006 01:12PM

2" is the best I could get. A couple of comments for above posters:

To loosen and tighten the box lock nut while holding adjustment steady: Put a screwdriver through the appropriate deepwell socket for the locknut. Hold the adjuster screw with teh screwdriver while you tighten or loosen the locknut with the socket using vice grips on teh socket body.

Wandering solution: Make sure you have toe-in on the frot or you will wander all over the place. Spoiler helps too.

Question for TIBCO under the car: Did the frame rail where the box is mounted flex any when you did your 'test'? Tires and weight of car need to be on teh ground to see it.

Russell in B'ham

"Technology"...the knack of so arranging the world that we don't have to experience it.

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