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Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: monza67 ()
Date: February 03, 2010 03:34AM

Back in the early 70's Warshawski Co. out of Chicago sold dune buggy frames that were designed and manufactured for Corvair suspensions and Manx style bodies. We built a buggy using one of these frames and early suspension components and sold it several years later. I should have never sold it, but found a Corvair component dune buggy in 2004 to rebuild. It has a homebrew frame and utilizes all early Corvair suspension components. I like the current buggy, but would like to build one using late suspension components. So, I'm looking for leads on one of these manufactured frames for late suspension components or drawings, sketches or good pictures of the frame. Anyone have any information or leads on these frames?
Chuck Prosise
65 Spatz dune buggy (all Corvair)

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: February 03, 2010 03:50AM

Con-Ferr (the CC frame) was one of the factory frames that accepted Corvair Components.


Here is a thread on the Dune Buggy Archives that tells some info.

[www.dunebuggyarchives.com]


Con-Vair was another manufacturer, or frame, factory made.

Eric P.
DeWitt, IA



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/2010 03:55AM by isucorvair.

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 03, 2010 03:51AM

None were made in mass production IIRC! All homebuilts..

What's the wheelbase of your Spatz?

Rich Shepard of Salem, Or. has this chassis LM IRS and Quicksteer!

$550

Could surely get it shipped cheap thru the non commercial haulers site.





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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame AD
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 03, 2010 03:55AM

Here's what Meyers sold... it was a ConFer





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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: February 03, 2010 04:12AM

JC Whitney and Con-Ferr also made a tube frame for LM rear suspension. It used the top of the diff cover as a support for the powertrain, plus a transmission xmember. It used a modified steering arrangement in the front that located the steering backwards (rear steer), behind the suspension xmember to keep it from harms way in rough terrain. There used to be a Desert Fox Scorpion here in town with that frame under it. I converted the steering back to a front steer, the rear steer used a bell crank that slowed the ratio badly. The last I heard the buggy was in Boulder but I haven't seen it in years.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 03, 2010 04:39AM

Interesting!! PRich's chassis may be one!! Or a copy... transaxle is mounted by the top cover.





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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: February 03, 2010 05:22AM

The dune buggy magazine did a feature on the frame, a pic on the cover and write-up and pics inside. I have the issue but would need to find it if anyone is interested. It used the LM rear parts too.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 03, 2010 05:24AM

Of course we're interested! but take your time....


TIA!





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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: February 03, 2010 01:49PM

My Dad's old buggy (MONZA67) used the top of the transaxle as the engine mount - like you are describing.

If anyone has any pictures, or Steve, if you can find the article, he is interested.


ERic P.
DeWitt, IA

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: February 03, 2010 01:54PM

Since you pushed me I looked this morning. It is October 1969 Road Test/Dune Buggy magazine. On the cover is the frame and also a Desert Fox Scorpion buggy.

On the inside is the frame/car and it reads by George Barris. The frame is credited to ATV Industries in Dearborn, Mich. (home of FORD) It uses LM rear suspension and as I described above the rear steer front linkage.

The test of the Scorpion (made in Phoenix) is also powered by Corvair.

I have no scanner but probably someone else has the above magazine and can help further.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: Matt E. ()
Date: February 03, 2010 03:16PM

I've had this frame knocking around for years. Is this one of the types you are talking about?

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 03, 2010 03:37PM

That's the same as Rich's.... his is on Wheels, has a transaxle





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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: jkoning ()
Date: February 03, 2010 04:19PM

I have a 1970 J.C. witney & co. catalog showing an add for the frame shown above.
It says Competition Chassis in the discription. I have one that looks like this!

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: jkoning ()
Date: February 03, 2010 04:24PM

I'm working with this frame to try to make this!

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: monza67 ()
Date: February 03, 2010 10:59PM

The tube style frames that Matt E. and JKoning show are very similar in appearance to what I had in the first buggy. These appear to be for late model rear suspensions and mine was for an early. The engine/transaxle was supported from the top cover of the differential like these frames are. Always bothered me just having the engine hanging from the bell housing.
Matt Nall, my Spatz has the same wheelbase as the VW chassis that has been cut down the 14 1/2".
The body that was on the first buggy was a direct splash of a Manx...exactly the same except no serial number. It had the proper bump on the hood, etc. The person we bought the (new) body from swore it was a Manx, but with no number, I doubt that it could be.
Chuck

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: Leon Renaud ()
Date: February 04, 2010 01:13AM

Are either of you guys that posted pics of these frames located anywhere near North Eastern ct.?I'd like to get more pics of these and if possible pull some measurements from them I'm working on something similar right now and I could possibly reproduce these.

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: Matt E. ()
Date: February 04, 2010 01:16AM

I'm located in Washington State.

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: February 04, 2010 01:53AM

Anybody know of a good way to ship a buggy frame from Washington State, to Iowa?


Eric P
DeWitt, IA

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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame - shipping
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 04, 2010 02:39AM

Ottowa knows the name.. it's a Tractor hauling site for privateers?





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Re: Corvair Dune Buggy Frame
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: February 04, 2010 04:27AM

I can have copies made of my magazine pages if someone wants them but I don't want to send bunches of them around the country. I can send them to one of you who can scan them for everyone else, let me know.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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