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Video of testing individual carburetors by lugog
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Date: June 18, 2011 08:09PM

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Lowest cost O2 monitoring
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: June 23, 2011 07:19PM

1 Buy a simple cheap 2-wire Oxy sensor for say a 1985 GM car... $15.00 or less

2 weld the bung / fitting /s to your exhaust pipe /s as close the the manifold as possible.

3 use a DVM and this chart..

From Bob Helt's book:


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All the 4 way flasher info you'll ever need
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Date: June 29, 2011 12:19AM


Somewhere between Sea Mountain and Coos Bay! SW Oregon Coast
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Differential Side adjuster / Yoke Seals All years
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Date: July 01, 2011 11:21PM

NTL number is 471707N

Sincere regards, Steve

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Auxiliary Carburetor Return springs!
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Date: July 08, 2011 12:48AM

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Rear Brake Spreader Bar SPRING PN's
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Date: July 14, 2011 04:41AM

It's a GREEN Spring


BRK H1341 [ CarQuest]

Wagner #F71846 listed for GM 9-1/2" brakes.

80461 is the Napa crossover. [ light blue]


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Powerglide info! submitted by LeeS
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Date: July 22, 2011 11:17PM

I'm sure that Norm wouldn't mind this "re-print"...


by Norm Helmkay

This is an edited version of an article I wrote in the Canadian Old Autos newspaper in March 1993 called "Bulletproof Power Glide." Many of the facts and figures come from the Corvair SAE paper titled: Corvair Automatic Transaxle by F.J. Winchell. It should be read by every Corvair enthusiast.

A remarkable fact about the Corvair Power Glide, is how trouble free it is. From a restorer's point of view, the Power Glide is the easiest automatic to service. Also, the drag racers also think it’s a darn good transmission. JW Performance Transmissions have made a big business of supplying Power Glide transmissions and parts for both street and strip cars that can handle up to 1,200 h.p.

Today, most Corvair owners (many of whom treat their cars as rare collectibles) would never think of shifting from forward to reverse at full throttle, which happened to be one of the design criterion for the automatic transmission on which we still depend. Dual master cylinder brake systems and handbrake aside, a Power Glide equipped Corvair has a safety brake system not realized by many.

It is a comfort to know, that in an emergency, IF ALL ELSE FAILS (with the brakes, that is), it is possible to bring a 2,500 pound Corvair to a stop by shifting from forward to reverse, without damaging the Power Glide.

A great story was told by Larry Knipe, Ultra Van Sales Manager, back in the sixties. An 80 year old man spent the mandatory two days, learning everything about the Ultra Van before driving away with his new coach. Six miles from Hutchinson (where they were made), he was so happy with the way his Ultra was running in "D"rive, he shifted to "R"acing to go faster. The vehicle came to a screeching halt. The Power Glide was undamaged, but the Ultra training course was immediately altered to include reversing.

For those interested in how this remarkable transmission came about, some very informative reading can be found in the SAE paper mentioned above. The Corvair Power Glide has a very pedigreed heritage. When the Corvair was introduced in the fall of 1959, the Power Glide had been in continuous design improvement since 1954, and nearly
7 million had been made.

In 1959, GM statisticians calculated Power Glides had been run over 200,035 BILLION consumer miles! With this many miles behind it, when the first Corvair was delivered to the public, engineers at GM were confident the transmission could take almost any customer abuse, since Corvair gear stresses were thought to be only 60% of those encountered in a full size Chevrolet V-8. It came as a big surprise when transmission failures appeared in early Corvairs. Soon it was learned a few new owners, trying to show off their new Corvair, by power shifting at full throttle. Occasionally (since there is no reverse lock-out) shifts were made from forward to reverse, putting horrific strains on the drive line. GM immediately set new standards for a redesigned Power Glide. To insure adequate "abuse" capacity, the "new" Corvair Power Glide would have to survive shifting from low to reverse with a wide open throttle, no less than ONE HUNDRED times on dry pavement.

Surprisingly, even when the changes were made, no reverse lock-out was provided to prevent going from forward to reverse at any speed.

Some of the changes involved better air cooling around the converter which was based on high temperature tests encountered in heavy city traffic, turnpike cruising, desert driving and climbing Pikes Peak.

The "worst case" scenario had to cope with many variables, such as how much energy was delivered to the clutches, fade characteristics of the clutch material, pump delivery, clutch plate temperatures, and last but by no means least, the engine speed at which an owner might shift from forward to reverse.

The final point of this article, is to make sure all Corvair drivers with automatic transmissions, know they always have a “Brake of Last Resort”, ... in panic mode, just move the shift lever to "R"acing.

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Differences in 1965 to 1966 Corvairs by BigWave Dave
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: August 08, 2011 03:34AM

Changes to 1966 model year from 1965 model year *
Items include those first offered in the 1966 model year and items that were put into production during the transition between the 1965 and 1966 model year. This list contains items and changes generally considered to be 1966 in nature but, many were running changes that occurred towards the end of the 1965 model year and therefore can be found on a number of late production 1965 Corvairs. Also a few items were first make available later in the 1966 model year and will not be found on all 1966 models. When possible, dates for running changes are included. Dates on running changes were gathered from the 1965 and 1966 assembly manuals. The dates listed represent the date the changes were incorporated into the assembly manual with a revision. I believe these dates should be viewed as a ballpark figure, give or take a week or two, on when the changes took effect. Although the changes may have actually occurred on the dates listed in the assembly manual, it appears unlikely that GM would be so precise with running changes. Corvairs were also produced in three different plants during the 1965 and 1966 model years, (Willow Run, Van Nuys, Oshawa). You would do well to assume that they did not occur at precisely the same time at all three plants.
Another factor to take into account is the imprecise nature of dated components in the car. Many components may have manufacturing dates on them. These include engine blocks, transaxles, instrument clusters, carpets, distributor, alternator, and the actual Fisher body of the Corvair to name a few. In general, these dates are usually within a few weeks of the actual production date of the car and fortunately this would apply for the vast majority of Corvairs produced. Unfortunately since a small number of Corvairs don’t follow this pattern, we can’t use the term “numbers matching” with 100% certainty. Here is why the numbers may not always match closely to the actual production date. Component parts including the Fisher body, should always have dates that would precede the actual production date. These components were stockpiled and usually used in production within a few weeks of manufacture . Slowdowns, over-production of parts, holdbacks and strikes can cause the gap between component manufacture and actual car production to widen. Fisher body was also known to Stockpile bodies and hold them before releasing them to the Chevrolet side for production. This is dramatically illustrated by the holdback of months on some bodies during the 1969 model year. Also Fisher would release a group of bodies at once, and that would explain why the assigned Vin does not always follow the sequence of the body number. (i.e. Vin # 10 has body # 11 and Vin #11 has body # 10). In view of these facts, generally speaking, you can get a rough idea when your Corvair was produced. Do not be surprised if a component or two have dates that fall outside that couple of week window. It still may be the original part that came with the car.
With the absence of production data from GM (no longer available) for US built Corvairs, the actual production date will remain unknown. GM Canada does have records on the actual production dates on Corvairs built in Oshawa. This can be obtain by mail. In the case of US built Corvairs, most owners will use the Fisher body build date as the production date, and the true build date (car assembled and assigned a VIN on the Chevy side) can range from a day to a week after the body build date in most cases. Try checking the date codes on other components to see if they agree within a couple of weeks of the estimated production date. So there you have it. You can get a general idea when your Corvair was built, and you can compare that date with the general date a running change occurred. When considering if you car should have the running change or not, Allow some time leeway due to the fact that the dates we are using are estimates.

This list is as complete as possible but I’m sure I missed a few items. Feel free to drop me an email If you find any other changes to compiled by David Trull 11/23/2003

(1966 represented the last year for Van Nuys, California and Oshawa Canada built Corvairs, , all subsequent Corvairs were all built at Willow Run).

1) New style tail light lenses (wedding band style on early 66s)
2) New style rear lower exhaust grill.
3) New style trim insert for redesigned lower exhaust grill for Corsa models
4) No pinstriping on beltline of Corsa model.
5) New style Monza cross
6) New plastic front “spoiler” lower valance
7) New style “wide” chrome lock trim piece with blue instead of red center.
8) Corvair script relocated from hood to front panel. (three instead of two prongs)
9) New style standard hubcaps with new design plastic inserts
10) New style one piece wheel well trim
11) Different trunk lock cylinder
12) Restyled thinner “look” rocker trim
13) Front aluminum headlight bezels have minor change. (added weep hole)
14) Remote mirror style changed to the “1967” style ( 03/02/66)
15) (most 66 models had the older style which moved the entire head when adjusting)
16) Headlight backing plate changed
17) Sheet metal box on air inlet shelf now gone.
18) New style rear hood emblems for 110hp emblem (new mounting holes on rear hood.
Fits newer 110hp emblem only)
19) New style rear hood emblems for 140hp emblem (new mounting holes on rear hood. Fits newer 140hp emblem only)
20) New style rear hood emblems for 180hp emblem (same mounting holes as all 1965 rear hood emblems)
21) New improved firewall mounting for steering column to improve safety
22) Less spot welds on body
23) New style outside rearview mirror (nonremote)
24) Trunk splatter paint color darker on 1966 Van Nuys built Corvairs
25) Gas tank strainer removed (according to GM parts catalog)
26) Attaching screws for tunnel pan changed. (01/04/66) ’65 part # 9417881 ’66 part # 9421479
27) Front hood spring retainer has 2 screws on 65's and only 1 on 66's
28) Steel floor plugs no longer have a notch on opposing sides like the 1965 models.
29) Lower heater hose straps mounting position changed
30) Speedometer cable routed differently. (07/09/65) The cable is routed under the brake line on 1965 models and over the brake line on 1966 models. (See assembly manual for details)
31) Front license plate mounting frame changed. 1965 models had only round holes to mount plate. This required a nut and bolt to install the plate. 1966 models have square holes for plastic inserts, which require only a bolt to screw into the insert.
32) Different routing of AC lines in body.
125) On 65s the bezel screwed into the backing plate and in 66 it screwed into extra brackets in the headlight buckets.

33) Front brake shoe anchor pin changed
34) Late 1966 models have predrilled holes for dual master cylinder.

35) Quick steering option now available factory option. RPO (N44).
36) Headrest bucket seats now available RPO (A82)
37) Rear power antenna now available. RPO (U75)
38) Telescopic column without wood wheel now available RPO (N36)
39) Hazard flasher now available factory option. RPO (V74)
40) Shoulder harness now available factory option (after Feb 1st 1966) RPO (A85)
41) Special performance suspension now an available factory option RPO (F41)
42) Hood and Trunk auxiliary lights now available as factory RPO (Z19) pkg.
43) Door edge guards now a factory RPO (part of the “Z19” Convenience pkg.)
44) Manual tune radio is no longer listed as a factory RPO. (Still avail from dealer)
45) 2 spd wiper/washer no longer an option and now standard
46) Padded dash no longer an option and now standard
47) Backup lights no longer an option and now standard
48) Triangular glass refill bottle no longer part of 2spd wiper/washer pkg. (This was likely a Cost saving decision due to the fact that the 2spd wiper/washer was now standard and not an extra cost option as in 1965) (Still avail from dealer)
49) (RPO D32 deleted) Outside rearview mirror no longer an option and now standard
50) Rear Seatbelts no longer an option and now standard
51) Tires changed from 6.50x13 to 7.00x13
52) Window sticker style changed.
53) AC sticker changed late 1966

54) Brake pedal switch changed. (07/07/65) ’65 part # 1993509 ’66 part # 1993353
55) + battery cable now routed through grommet in body instead of grommet in front shroud. (07/07/65)
56) Slightly different wiring to powertop relay on framerail. See assembly manual for details.
57) Different colors used on wiring harness ( changed to match rest of Chevy product line)
58) No longer a separate engine harness for 500 models. (now shares harness with Monzas)
(Backup lights std)
59) Dash harness changed to include 2spd wiper connector

60) Linkage for 140hp engine changed
61) New battery holddown (06/04/65)
62) New style rear engine motor mount. ( 03/04/65 )
63) AC condenser relocated up away from engine.
64) AC now available for 140hp models including Corsa.
65) Receiver dryer moved from the engine compartment to the trunk
66) ¼ in. size bolts for rubber engine perimeter seal (01/25/66) 1965’s used 5/16in.
67) New Style Turbo aircleaner sticker.
68) Fuel lines on right side of 140hp models changed. (due to AC or smog pump)
69) AIR smog pump added to California vehicles except turbocharged 180hp models.
70) Changes to shrouds to accommodate AIR plumbing
71) AIR cars have modified exhaust manifolds
72) AIR cars have extra pulley for smog pump
73) Some larger shroud bolt attaching holes on cylinder heads.
74) Body platform code “Z” added to trim line on bodytags on Van Nuys built Corvairs.
excluding those with optional headrests. This was added to identify Corvair platform since Van Nuys
was producing other Chevy models now.
75) No group 3 options on Fisher bodytag
76) Front engine shroud changed to delete axle dipstick tube hole
77) Fan shroud has larger attaching holes due to use of larger attaching bolts in heads.
78) “High” mount bracket for AC now available for use on 140hp engine. Low mount bracket still used on two carb models.
79) Different mounting location for fast idle solenoid ( Now mounted to fan shroud)
80) AC cars no longer use 1961-63 style air cleaner assemblies. Std late model units used
81) Different ignition coil mounting location on 1966 AC cars vs. 1965 AC cars. (11/11/65)
82) Different distributors “recurved” for AIR models
83) AC rear lid mercury switch added to shut off compressor when lid is opened
84) Transaxle oil dipstick check label in engine compartment now gone
85) Voltage regulator mounts in different position. No longer mounted diagonally as 1965 models. Now mounts pretty much straight up and down.
86) Spare tire carrier assembly attached to frame rail changed. (01/07/66) Lug wrench no longer attaches to carrier and now attaches to floor shelf near jack.
87) Clips attaching the molded insulation to the rear hood changed. ’65 part # 9775412 ’66 part # 389609
88) Front shroud engine grommet changed from 4 hole to 3 hole. (06/15/65)
89) Special crankcase vent tube for 1965 AC cars no longer needed and deleted.
90) Special 1965 AC oilbath aircleaner setup deleted. 1966 models do not require a special oilbath setup for AC cars.
91) Carburetor assembly changed. New part number with jetting changes

92) New style upholstery with trim buttons and without map pockets.
93) Wrinkled finished Corsa instrument cluster (dash) no longer has silver striping surrounding the dash. (08/13/65) ’65 part # 6455028 ’66 part # 6457062
94) New style horn button for sport wheel option (non-telescopic)
95) Different style ignition switch
96) Different ignition lock cylinder
97) Rear speaker grille style changed
98) Thicker sunvisors
99) Tire pressure warning sticker in glovebox changed
100) Deluxe seatbelt buckles design changed
101) Monza emblem on horn button changed
102) Ashtrays now have a plastic "handle" that is screwed onto the front lip of the ashtray.
103) New face design on tissue dispenser
104) Different style rubber floor mats
105) Monza dashes now black instead of silver colored.
106) Shifter housing changed (05/05/65) ‘65 part # 3872873 ‘66 part # 3872875
107) Shifter lever changed (07/07/65) ’65 part # 3872871 ’66 part # 3872872
108) Chrome Corsa shifter housing changed. (07/07/65) “65 part # 3861871 ’66 part # 3886500
109) Change in AC control assembly (spring added)

110) New two piece steering shaft with new type coupler (03/31/65)
111) Steering column mast jacket different

112) Change to a new Saginaw transmission for both 3 and 4spds.
113) Front strut rod bracket to transmission crossmember changed
114) Axle halfshaft u-joint to hub bolts size enlarged on both ends. (late ‘65 running change)
115) No longer have dipstick for transaxle
116) Backup light switch relocated on manual trans from bottom to the side
117) Shifter rear stabilizer bracket changed
118) Differential case changed (i.e. New mounting holes) to mount new style transmission.
119) On the shifter assembly, the receiver for the ball of the shifter is a welded on stamped version, replacing the 1965 style cast piece.
120) Throttle rod redesigned for new manual transmission.
121) Different longer (24 3/8” Vs 23 ¼”) transmission input shaft
122) Rear transmission crossmember redesigned for use with the new “Saginaw” transmission.
123) Special flat metal locking piece attached to axle u-joint strap deleted. Bend up tang to lock. (08/13/65)
124) Accelerator linkage crossbar pivot attached to transmission redesigned.


Complements of BigWave Dave/ 124 and Cody [ 1]

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Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 06, 2011 02:07AM

oil goes from the pump, to the filter, to the cooler, to the lifter galleries to the mains to the rods.

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Identifying your Bellhousing?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 11, 2011 02:07AM

The difference is in the location of the crankshaft seal. The 164 crankshaft is shorter so the crankshaft seal is .050" closer to the engine block.

EM bellhousing works with a spacer. I don't know about crankshaft sealing going in the other direction.

Identification: Look in the hourglass-shaped area that faces the engine. An EM bellhousing will have a silver-dollar sized depression in the camshaft area. An LM bellhousing will be smooth across that area.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.

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Pictorial of LM Vert Top install
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Date: September 26, 2011 07:54PM

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Pertronixs Testing I & II
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 01, 2011 04:17AM

Watch for voltage drop... anything less than 0 is cause for alarm..

Testing Pertronix II pdf

The Ignitor II will shut down if the key is left “ON”, it’s a built in protection against overheating. The Ignitor I will NOT!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2012 01:15AM by MattNall.

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Handy reference:Late turn signal connector wiring
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 05, 2011 05:52PM

Handy reference:Late turn signal connector wiring

White - from brake switch
Purple - from turn signal flasher
Brown - from hazard flasher (67 up)

Dark blue - Right front signal lamp
Light blue - Left front signal lamp
Dark green - Right rear stop light
Yellow - Left rear stop light
Black - to horn relay (ground)

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4-dr, 4.2L V8 47k
66 Monza 140/4 EFI
61 Rampside
10-yr old daughter's '64 GB Playhouse
20 Tons of parts in boxes

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EM passenger side mirror installation instructions
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 11, 2011 01:48AM

1963 Corvair Assembly Manual which I used to install
factory correct mirrors on both sides of our 63 700 sedan. Here are the
> the rear hole of the two mounting holes should be 3.15 inches forward of the
rear edge of the vent window frame and 2.48 inches below the body break just
below the vent. The front hole should be 2.00 inches forward of that, parallel
to the body break, of course. The holes should be .120 diameter. Be aware that
vehicles coming from the factory with mirrors had an extra metal stiffener
behind the door skin for extra support. I have had to watch my mirrors for
ocassional loosening.
> I found that this mounting made for a very close tolerance for opening the
vent window; however it DOES clear.
> I hope you can use this. Sorry, but I am not a taker-and-sender of pictures
electronically. I am lucky to email most of the time.
> Dick Moon, Prairie Capital Corvair Assn.,
> North Pekin, Illinois

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Cooling System Exhaust Duct Damper Adjustment - Thermostat Bellows Adjust
Posted by: cepak ()
Date: November 08, 2011 02:34AM

1961 Shop Manual - Engine 6A-12 through 6A-14

1) With the exhaust damper door fully open, pull the actuating rod out
to the maximum travel (thermostat bellows against bracket stop).

2) Adjust swivel until it enters damper door pivit hole and retain with clip.

3) Both damper doors are adjusted the same, with the thermostat against the
stop bracket, measure from the flat of the damper door edge to the exhaust
duct upper edge. This opening should measure approximately 2 11/32".

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Replace your 1960 Fuel sender for $50!
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 16, 2011 07:34PM

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FC Gas Tank info
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Date: November 20, 2011 01:32AM

Posted by: WhenIm64
Date: November 19, 2011 05:26PM

The "second design" tanks, as originally installed in PG-equipped FCs, had the indentations where the shifter tunnel would be, but no tunnel.

1961 to mid-63, same tank for all FCs

Mid-63 to end of production, "tunnel tank" for all manual-transmission FCs, "tunnel tank" without the tunnel for all PG-equipped FCs.

Any PG-equipped FC can use any tank.

Any 1961 to mid-63 FC can use any tank.

Any mid-63 through 65 FC with a manual tranmission needs the tunnel tank.

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Rochester Carb Cutaway Pictures
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 20, 2011 05:39AM

Compliments of Russ... Bluechip Machine And VairChet for the manual pics

Accel pump circuit and Cluster

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Fisher Body Tag Codes!
Posted by: Bigwave ()
Date: December 03, 2011 06:15PM

Here's help for all you decoders out there

Bigwave Dave Trull

Decoding that mysterious Fisher bodytag

(We generally have good information regarding the codes for 1962 to 1967 Bodytags. So only codes for those years will be listed. This info was gathered by examining a number of bodytags for those years. It represents a best guess for these codes. 1960-61 have yet to be decoded &. 68-69 do not have ACC codes)
Body build date
The first set of characters you see are a three character code on the top left corner of the bodytag. This represents the date code. The code consists of two digits and a letter*. The digits represent the month, and the letter represents the week. Example 11B means November 2nd week. The week began on a Monday. For the last week, if the week went through a Wednesday, it was that month’s week. If it only went through Tuesday, it was the next month’s week. This code represents the date the body was completed by Fisher body. The body would then be delivered to the Chevy side to install the drivetrain and complete the car. There is a definite time interval between when the body was completed and delivered and when the car was finished on the Chevy side and a VIN number assigned. This was usually within a week or two, but sometimes could be longer. This system gives rise to the possibility of a body built date at the end of one month and a final production date at the start of the subsequent month. Fisher would also deliver bodies in groups and was known to sometimes hold back bodies for one reason or another, so it is possible to have cars bodies that are out of sequence with the VIN numbers. (i.e. body 8 has a Vin # higher than body 12). * An exception to the 2 digit- one letter code is a 3 digit number code used on 1965 Los Angeles models built in Mid-September 1964. This is discussed later at the end of the Decoding section.
Next in line is style, which list first the year and then model of the Corvair.
(i.e. 63-0967 means 1963 Monza Convertible or 65-10567 for 1965 Monza Convertible)
This line lists the plant code* and body number. The body number represents the number of that body style built. (i.e. if the car is a Monza convertible, then the body number represents the number of only Monza convertibles built, it would not include Corsa convertibles or Monza coupes or sedans.) The body number is specific and linked to the style number. So for example in 1966 there were 7 different styles (10137, 10139, 10537,10539,10567,10737,10767) and each style had its own series of body numbers for that plant. *See plant codes on next page

Plant codes on the bodytag include:
1962 plants: OA = Oakland, WR = Willow Run
1963 plants: OA = Oakland, VN = Van Nuys, WR = Willow Run
1964 plants: WR = Willow Run (no other plants that year)
1965 plants: WRN = Willow Run, LOS = Los Angeles (Van Nuys)
1966 plants: WRN = Willow Run, LOS = Los Angeles (Van Nuys)
1967-69 plant: WRN = Willow Run (no other plants these years)
This 3 digit codes represents the interior color and seat type. An extra digit is include for 1963-64 convertibles for the top color. On 1966-67 models the extra digit denotes whether the car has optional headrests or not. E = headrests on bench or bucket seat cars built in WRN in 1966 and bench in1967. Y = headrests on bucket seat cars built in Los Angeles or buckets built in WRN in 1967. Z = Corvair trim designator on LA built cars only. 1966 Willow Run cars without headrests, have this area left blank.
Exterior: 1962 through 1964 Corvairs use a three digit exterior paint code. Late models (65-68) have a different paint code. They used a two character code employing two letters for hardtops and a one letter /one digit code for convertibles. Ex. R-R = Regal red, R-C = two tone white top/red bottom, R-1 = Convertible with red paint and white Conv top. 1969 used a two digit number repeated twice for hardtops and the second number is replaced with a letter for conv top (ie. 50 50 for hardtop, 50 A for convertible)
Interior: The 1962-63 Corvairs have an extra digit on the trim or paint section of the tag. WRN has the extra digit for interior paint on the Paint section. Ex. 922-7 = Red with black interior paint Oakland cars have the code on the trim line. 1964 models have an extra letter instead of number in the Paint section of early style Fisher bodytag plates. The bodytag plate was changed in mid Oct (between 10A and 10E) to a 2nd style and the interior paint code letter is relocated to the bottom right corner of bodytag. The 64 bodytag plate is changed again in Mid March (3C or D) to the same style that is also used on late model 65-67 Corvairs. Interior paint code is located at the top right corner of the late model bodytag. Bodytag style changed in 1968, and again in 1969.
Top colors:
1962: Code for top color found on ACC line.
1963-64: Code for top color found on TRIM line.
1965-69: Code for top color found on PAINT line.
Top color codes:
1962: 1 = white 2 = black 3 = Blue? 4 = Cream
1963: 1 = white 2 = black 3 = beige
1965: 1 = white 2 = black 3(WRN) or 6(LA) = beige
1966: 1 = white 2 = black 3(WRN) or 6(LA) = beige
1967: 1 = white 2 = black
1968: 1 = white 2 = black
1969: A= white B= black
Interior paint codes: (Interior paint codes do not appear on Los Angeles built cars)
1962: 2= Blue 3= Aqua 4= Fawn 5= Red 7= Black 8= Saddle 9= Gold
1963: 2= Blue 3= Aqua 4= Fawn 5= Red 7= Black 8= Saddle R = White/Red.
1964: A= Aqua B= Blue C= Saddle D= Red E= Black F= Fawn Q= White/Red
1965: A= Aqua B= Blue C= Saddle D= Red E= Black F= Fawn H= White/Aqua S= White/Black W= Slate
1966: F= Fawn T= Turquoise S = White/Black D= Red R= Bright Blue E= Black Z= Bronze.
1967: 1= Blue 4= Black 5= Fawn 6= Bright Blue 7= Gold.
1968: E= Black O or G?= Gold ?= Blue
1969: A= Black D= Blue G= Green

ACC = Accessory line
When decoding ACC line on the Fisher bodytags, be aware that bodytags do not include any options that did not require any body modification be done by Fisher. Fisher was only concerned with items that required modifications during the assembly of the body. A good example is that you won’t find Telescopic column listed on the bodytag. Although this is a major option, it did not require any special consideration during body assembly. Top color is listed on the ACC line for 1962 Convertibles. Also there are no group numbers in the 1962 ACC line, and 63 Oakland cars

Fisher bodytags ACC line
The code letters are listed in the order they generally would appear. (A question mark
( ? ) appears after those options where the level of certainty is not as great due to a low sample in the survey or options that are often added or removed and may not reflect original equipment. Late model 1965-66 Cars had a single ACC line and LA cars had the ACC codes split onto 2 lines. Canadian cars had the actual RPO codes on the bodytag.

1962 Fisher bodytags ACC line. (WR, OA)

Willow Run bodytag codes (NO Group Numbers i.e. no numeric indicator)
A = Direct Air heater (Always listed 1st and listed on every WR car in survey)
D = Spyder
E = Bucket seats on 4 door models
H = Padded dash
N = Powertop
K = Tinted Glass (all windows)
J = Tinted Windshield?
L = Convertible top code followed by a number indicating color.
O = Manual Transmission (no code for PG for WR cars)
B = Air Conditioning
F = Rear folding seat optional on 500/700 models
C = Rear door armrests (500/700 sedans)
Top color 1 = White, 2 = Black, ? = Blue, 4 = Cream (Blue is probably coded 3)

Oakland bodytag codes (NO Group Numbers i.e. no numeric indicator)
H = Direct air Heater (Always listed 1st and listed on every OA car in survey)
B = Powerglide (no code for manual trans for OA cars)
X = Spyder option
P = Padded dash
W = Tinted Windshield
E = Tint glass ( all windows)
L = ?
F = Folding rear seat. Optional on 500/700 models
A = Air Conditioning
? = Powertop
? = Rear door armrests
K= Rear Speaker ?

1963 Fisher bodytags ACC line. (WR, OA and VN)
The Letters are listed in groups. Letters following a number is in that group. The code letters are listed in the order they would appear. Some letters are in more than one group
WRN and VN Bodytags
First Group ( no numeric indicator)
E = RPO A01 Tinted Glass ( Soft Ray glass in all windows)
F = RPO A02 Tinted Windshield
L = Rear folding seat (500-700models)

2 = Second Group
C = RPO Padded dash
D = RPO Powertop
E = RPO C60 Air Conditioning
M = RPO Powerglide
L = Manual trans (VN only)
Y = Rear seat Speaker

3 = Third Group
C = RPO Turbocharged Spyder option
P = ? (VN only) might be Comfort and Convenience -- as with '65, may indicate two-speed wiper and washer (carryover from FS Chevys built in same plant)

Oakland bodytags (It appears that the 1962 OA codes carried over to 1963)
Does not use group numbers
W = Tinted Windshield
E = Tint glass all
P = padded dash
A = AC
X = Spyder option
K = Rear seat speaker?

1964 Fisher bodytags ACC line. (WR only)
The Letters are listed in groups. Letters following a number is in that group. The code letters are listed in the order they would appear. Some letters are in more than one group
Tag style change at either 10C or 10D
First Group ( no numeric indicator)
E = Tinted windshield and side glass
D = Power Top (Manual top standard, no indicator)
W = Tinted Windshield only

2 = Second Group
M = Powerglide Automatic
L = 4 Speed
E = Air Conditioning
P = Convenience group (2 speed wipers, w/ washer, day/night mirror, glovebox
light, backup lights)
R = Rear speaker
S = Rear antenna

3 = Third Group
C = Padded dash
No other letters reported in group 3

4 = Fourth Group
F= convenience group Z13 (not available with 2P but includes all 2P options
plus remote door mirror)

5 = Fifth Group
W = Custom Dlx seat belts with retractors RPO A49 (after Feb 1, 1964)
V = Custom Dlx seat belts no retractors RPO A37 (before Feb 1, 1964)
O = ?
Z = ?

1965 Fisher bodytags ACC line. (WRN and LOS)
The Letters are listed in groups. Letters following a number is in that group. The code letters are listed in the order they would appear. Some letters are in more than one group
First Group ( no numeric indicator)
E = RPO A01 Tinted Glass ( Soft Ray glass in all windows)
O = Two tone paint trimpiece (sedans)/ Manual top (pre Jan 65 LA cars only)
D = RPO C06 Power Top
W = RPO A02 Tinted Windshield only
L = folding rear seat (500 series only)

2 = Second Group
M = RPO M35 Powerglide Automatic
L = RPO M20 4 Speed
E = RPO C60 Air Conditioning
P = (LOS cars only) 2 spd Wipers (LOS listed this separately from the CC group)
R = RPO U80 Rear speaker
S = RPO U73 Rear ant.
H = Heater delete (code carried over to 66)

3 = Third Group
C = Padded Dash
A = Rear armrest on 500 sedans

4 = Fourth Group
P = RPO Z01 convenience group ( 2 sp wipers, washers, day/night inside mirror).
O = RPO L87 Turbo engine
U = Spare tire lock
F = Outside Remote Drivers Mirror/ with CC group

5 = Fifth Group
W = RPO A49 Deluxe Seatbelts ( Chrome Buckles)
O = Seatbelt delete
G = std rear seatbelt
Y = dlx rear seatbelts
Unknown if the dash at the end of the ACC line has any meaning. (On 50% of WRN tags)

1966 Fisher bodytags ACC line. (WRN and LOS)
The Letters are listed in groups. Letters following a number is in that group. The code letters are listed in the order they would appear. Some letters are in more than one group
Most 1965 codes carried over to 1966 unchanged. (New std equip eliminated some codes)
First Group ( no numeric indicator)
E = RPO A01 Tinted Glass ( Soft Ray glass in all windows)
D = RPO C06 Power Top (Manual top standard, no indicator)
W = RPO A02 Tinted Windshield only
O = Two tone paint trimpiece ( sedans only)
L = folding rear seat (500 series only)

2 = Second Group
M = RPO M35 Powerglide Automatic
E = RPO C60 Air Conditioning
R = RPO U80 Rear speaker
S = RPO U73 Rear ant.
T = RPO U75 Power Rear antenna
H = Heater delete

3 = Third Group
A = Rear armrest (500 series sedans)

4 = Fourth Group
O = RPO L87 Turbo engine
F = Remote outside mirror / updated CC group (lighting grp, door guards)

5 = Fifth Group
Y = RPO A49 Deluxe Seatbelts ( Stainless Steel Push-button Buckles)
O = Seatbelt delete? ( No cars found with this code, but may carry over from 65)
? = Shoulder harness
*Standard seatbelts, old CC group and padded dash are now standard. So C in group three, P in group four and W in group five no longer listed. Also 4spd transmission no longer listed, with the introduction of the new Saginaw transmission. Rear seatbelts are also now STD. Willow Run cars had the ACC codes all on one line.

1967 Fisher bodytags ACC line. (WRN)
The Letters are listed in groups. Letters following a number is in that group. The code letters are listed in the order they would appear. Some letters are in more than one group
Most 1966 codes carried over to 1967 unchanged
First Group ( no numeric indicator)
E = RPO A01 Tinted Glass ( Soft Ray glass in all windows)
D = RPO C06 Power Top (Manual top standard, no indicator)
W = RPO A02 Tinted Windshield only
O = Two tone paint trimpiece ( sedans only)
L = folding rear seat (500 series only)

2 = Second Group
M = RPO M35 Powerglide Automatic
D = RPO C60 Air Conditioning
R = RPO U80 Rear speaker
S = RPO U73 Rear ant.
U = RPO U57 Stereo tape system
H = Heater delete

3 = Third Group
-no group three options found-

4 = Fourth Group
F = Remote outside mirror RPO D33

5 = Fifth Group
Y = RPO A49 Deluxe Seatbelts ( Stainless Steel Push-button Buckles)
O = Seatbelt delete? ( No cars found with this code, but may carry over from 65)
Z = ? Front Shoulder Belt, Custom Deluxe (available only when A39 is installed)
C = ? Front Shoulder Belt, Standard Type

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