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How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: 1961chandler ()
Date: October 31, 2009 06:33PM

Its getting time to replace my starter..And I looked on the SEARCH and found some info about what to do in starter replacement, but have a few questions..
First, what I'm going to have the car on standard car ramps and remove the starter from under the car. Cables and other stuff I know about to take off first and the bottom starter bolt that I can see. But the starter bolt I can't even see?
Info on what type (photo would be great) of tool or wrench I need to use to remove that bolt Is what i'm trying to find out about..Also i figure that it's going to take a while to remove that bolt also.
I allready had my hands in that area replacing the positive cable to that starter and that was fun. I just want to have the right tools to use so I can get under the car. replace starter and done. Thanks for any info.

M.R. Diaz
1961 Monza 900
Chandler Arizona

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: gwydionjhr ()
Date: October 31, 2009 06:41PM

I think it's a 9/16th socket. I use a 12" extension to get up and behind the starter.

Regards,
Joel Rushworth
1961 Rampside w/Deluxe Scamper Camper
1966 Corsized Cdn Monza Coupe
1967 UV #292
"Kick the Hell out of the Status Quo" - Ed Cole

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: WalterElias ()
Date: October 31, 2009 06:44PM

Both starter bolts are 9/16. Just use a 9/16 socket, extension and rachet wrench. The bolt is 180 degrees from the other one.

Dan Kling
1961 Greenbrier Deluxe, 110 HP, 4spd, 3.89 stump puller
1963 Spyder Coupe, restored, converted to 4spd Saginaw
1967 UltraVan #299, The migration has begun, we're on the road again......Save the Whales!

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: RthrDent ()
Date: October 31, 2009 07:07PM

This is a real PITA on EM's. I use a 9/16" box end wrench to break it loose since I can't get both arms in. Then I use a socket on a long extension to twirl it the rest of the way out. On reinstall I thread it by hand/socket then use the end wrench to tighten.

Allen in The Duke City
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'61 Lakewood
'65 Corsa turbo convertible (former)
'64 Spyder convertible (former)






"I love the smell of oil smoke in the morning."

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: 1961chandler ()
Date: October 31, 2009 07:09PM

Thats the info I need.

M.R. Diaz
1961 Monza 900
Chandler Arizona

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: Arizonacc ()
Date: November 01, 2009 10:18PM

You can always take it to that guy in Apache Junction he can fit it in his time slot But he is pretty Busy

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: Scott V ()
Date: November 02, 2009 12:17AM

Arizonacc Wrote:
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> You can always take it to that guy in Apache
> Junction he can fit it in his time slot But he is
> pretty Busy

whats the guys name in apache junction?

-Scott V.

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 02, 2009 12:24AM

Geronimo!!!! LOL!!

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: brocklanders ()
Date: November 02, 2009 12:56AM

Seriously not that bad on a LM at least. Take the wheel off, get an extension and just feel for it. I found it quite easy on and off.


1968 500 coupe 110 pg
1967 Fitch Sprint 4 door
Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: November 02, 2009 01:04AM

Mine wasn't bad at all, either. It helps that I have the long arms of a monkey, but still. I can take that thing off with the car sitting on all 4 tires...just feel for it.

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: tkalp ()
Date: November 02, 2009 01:25AM

The A-arm rear suspension of an EM adds a few degrees of difficulty to the inner starter bolt . . . a PG makes it even tougher. With an extension slightly longer than the starter and a 9/16 socket it can be done . . . you can feel the bolt with one hand and work the wrench with the other. Good luck. If it gives you a real problem you can pull the front engine shroud and get to the bolt from the engine compartment.

Good Luck.

tkalp
wichita, ks

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: November 02, 2009 01:30AM

I think the first time around it would be easier to remove the drivers rear wheel/tire to gain some room. Then remove the heater hose from the engine outlet and the starter is visible. You can feel over the top of the starter easily then for the top bolt. I have one of the curved starter wrenches from decades ago that makes it easier to place over the starter, it is curved like the starter shape.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: November 04, 2009 05:10AM

M.R. I met you at Thouorbred a couple of weeks ago. If you still don't have your starter problem resolved, bring it over and we can put it on my lift. Easy to reach then.

Dan
Chandler, AZ
1966 Corsa Turbo Convertible
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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: Chris Lampe ()
Date: November 05, 2009 04:43AM

steve c goodman Wrote:
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> I think the first time around it would be easier
> to remove the drivers rear wheel/tire to gain some
> room. Then remove the heater hose from the engine
> outlet and the starter is visible. You can feel
> over the top of the starter easily then for the
> top bolt. I have one of the curved starter
> wrenches from decades ago that makes it easier to
> place over the starter, it is curved like the
> starter shape.


Stsve is absoultely correct, I just did this yesterday on my 1964, jack the drivers side rear up, support with a jack stand and remove the drivers rear wheel. I tried to do it with out removing the heater hose, but in the end I removed the heater hose, made accessing the bolt easier. I used a 9/16in six point socket on a 10in wobble extension. I've attached a picture so you can see the 2 bolt holes on the starter.

Chris
Rowlett, Tx
NTCA - North Texas Corvair Association
CORSA
'64 Monza 'vert

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: swi66 ()
Date: November 05, 2009 11:40AM

You have to use your sense of smell to find it, because you can't see it. LOL

On an early, I usually reach over the brake drum to get to it.

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Re: How do you remove the starter drive lever piviot pin?
Posted by: Chris Lampe ()
Date: November 06, 2009 11:24PM

I looked in the shop manual, it says there should be a nut and lock washer on the end of the drive lever pivot pin, I obviously don’t have a nut or lock washer.





Is this locking thingy (technical term) a sacrificial piece? Do I cut it off?

Chris
Rowlett, Tx
NTCA - North Texas Corvair Association
CORSA
'64 Monza 'vert

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 06, 2009 11:33PM

Cut it off!! most just have a generic "C-clip"

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: November 07, 2009 09:55PM

I thought I would show you guys the curved starter wrench Steve G mentioned.
Notice the one side says "Starter & Manifold". It comes in handy in many tight areas.

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: November 07, 2009 11:35PM

This is an old tool, I am not certain that SNAP-ON even lists this wrench these days, my catalog is at the shop; maybe someone else can check if interested over the weekend.

Sincere regards, Steve

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo 1967 monza 110/4
1968 monza 110/4 1971 amante gt 110/4

Golden, Colo. CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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Re: How do you remove the unseen starter bolt ?
Posted by: sweet66monza ()
Date: November 07, 2009 11:51PM

craftsman makes one very similar and theyre on the shelf at the local sears.

Cody Hurley
North Idaho (Post Falls)
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