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Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: ubuck ()
Date: September 07, 2009 06:50PM

OK...I've read the posts and my question is this:

According to the Service Manual, to R&R a tank, you leave the filler neck connected and remove as a complete assembly but every post I've read here seems to indicate the opposite. I need to drop the tank to replace the dreaded brake line to the passengers side on my EM.

So, what's the real story?

Brian
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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: corvrman ()
Date: September 07, 2009 07:06PM

I recently pulled my tank out, and it is much easier to pull the filler neck out with it. It's way too hard to get the hoses undone to leave the filler neck in the car. It's really pretty easy to get it out with the neck attached.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: September 07, 2009 11:00PM

I never tried to take it apart in the car, but can't imagine it being easy. Just raise the car to get the angle, and it will come out complete with hoses.

You don't have to lift it this far, as I did to pull it out as I took the body off on a crane. I think I had it about 12 to 18 inches in the air to put it back.


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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: ocnyp ()
Date: September 08, 2009 05:35PM

When I did it, I dropped the tank with the filler neck attached, but the hoses were too dry to give me any flexibility to get the whole thing out. I ended up just taking a razor to the hoses (since I was replacing them anyway). Then before putting the tank back in, I connected the filler neck to the tank with the new hoses, which were flexible enough for me to eventually shimmy the tank back into place.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: Mark M ()
Date: September 08, 2009 05:45PM

Took mine out this winter and reinstalled about a month or so ago. Supposed to be able to keep the filler connected and pull the whole thing out, but you need plenty of ground clearance to do it. I had about 18", but 24" would have made it easier. It's VERY difficult to get to the hose clamps on the short hose from the tank to the filler.

If you tank has never been out you probably need to replace that hose anyway. It's only 4 or 5 inches long and a special size. Get it from one of our vendors.

Mine was shot, so I pulled the tank part way and then reached up and cut the hose off. I assembled everything after restored, including attaching the filler hose and it all went back up in pretty easily - which leads me to believe it should come out as one unit if you have the car high enough.

Mark M
Project: 64 Spyder Vert running 80 hp heads and carbs
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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: ubuck ()
Date: September 08, 2009 10:40PM

Mark M Wrote:
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>- which leads me to believe it should come
> out as one unit if you have the car high enough.


Yep...it's high enough...so's the mechanic! drinking smiley

Brian
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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 08, 2009 11:19PM

Make sure to be un-reinforced hose.. not stiff! Otherwise it's a bear to re-insert the tank.

Also, when removing... either push the filler neck rubber down thru the body, or lub good and after straps are off, hit with a block of wood and a BFH...

Tank then falls out!

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: corvrman ()
Date: September 09, 2009 12:26AM

richard1 Wrote:
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> The size sold by the vendors is for 61 and up. Not
> for 60's.


I recently replaced the filler neck hose in my '60, bought it from clarks C1045 and it worked fine.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: September 09, 2009 01:57AM

There was no way mine was going on. I don't remember which vendor, but it came in my suitcase. Finally bought a piece of hose locally, which of course was reinforced, proving what Matt already said.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: ubuck ()
Date: September 13, 2009 01:34AM

OK...last question.

I've been soaking my 45 year old nuts (eye popping smiley) all week long to give me the best shot at taking this thing down tomorrow without breaking things. In the service manual, they reference a bolt that holds the filler neck at the opening. I don't see one on my 64. I looked behind the body grommet and don't see anything. Was this a change from 60-61? Does the body grommet now take it's place? confused smiley

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: richard1 ()
Date: September 13, 2009 02:06PM

There is a screw on the 60. No grommet. The grommet I think starts with 61, but I don't know anything else about the later ones.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: Woodkeeth ()
Date: September 13, 2009 02:27PM

Brian,good to hear about your nuts.I gotta say I love Cragar SS wheels and the rare 4 bolt/4 spoke ones are cool and look great on your car(and your car looks great too).

Keith.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: ubuck ()
Date: September 14, 2009 06:22AM

Can't take the credit for the rims, Keith. Came with the car~ thank Rick Loving! (And the match for the spare!)

Truth be told, it's probably the reason I bought this 64. I love "old school". smoking smiley

Oh, and the tank came right out! I LOVE my lift~

Brian
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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: beguiled ()
Date: September 14, 2009 06:47AM

I had no problem whatsoever removing my old tank with hoses and everything intact and installing intact...also there's just the big grommet, no screw/bolt as you mention on 62 and up tank filler necks. It's super easy, just make sure you can get plenty of height or it's a bear tomove the tank around to get out or in again...

Shawn S.
Charles City, Iowa
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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: john ackley ()
Date: March 15, 2010 04:21PM

my 60 seems to have a weird shaped bolt at the filler pipe, right at the top by the cap. im not sure what to use to get it out.

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: Gregory_Miller ()
Date: March 15, 2010 05:46PM

Tell me again about your lift, the brand, where you got it, it's nice. I'm sure there's some way ti "lock" it up so that the thing can't drop on you in case of a failure, right?

Greg Miller
Eugene, Oregon

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: ubuck ()
Date: March 15, 2010 07:17PM

Gregory_Miller Wrote:
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> Tell me again about your lift, the brand, where
> you got it, it's nice. I'm sure there's some way
> ti "lock" it up so that the thing can't drop on
> you in case of a failure, right?


Yes. It has a safety stop. BendPak. Deal on Ebay. Look at his link here:

[corvaircenter.com]

Brian
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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: Fast Eddie ()
Date: March 15, 2010 08:22PM

ubuck Wrote:
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> OK...last question.
>
> I've been soaking my 45 year old nuts (eye popping smiley) all
> week long to give me the best shot at taking this
> thing down tomorrow without breaking things. In
> the service manual, they reference a bolt that
> holds the filler neck at the opening. I don't see
> one on my 64. I looked behind the body grommet and
> don't see anything. Was this a change from 60-61?
> Does the body grommet now take it's place? confused smiley

I didn't know you were 45

Bowie,MD

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Re: Gas Tank Removal
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: March 16, 2010 03:12AM

Richard is right that the 60 hose is a larger diameter than 61 and later but you can make the Clark's replacement hose fit the 60 with plenty of spray. I didn't realize there was a difference until I replaced my 64 tank a few months later.
Crawford

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