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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: freeulster ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:21AM

As you you can see that the best Corvair is the one YOU own.

Kent Donnelly
Living in sunny Brigantine Beach NJ
64 Vert
Philadelphia Corvair Assoc and CORSA
"EM's are faster than LM's because we don't have all those extra lug nuts weighting us down"

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: 4carbcorvair ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:22AM

freeulster Wrote:
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> As you you can see that the best Corvair is the
> one YOU own.


Agree. smiling smiley

They are all good in thier own way to each one of us. smiling smiley

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Ronnie
Southern Maine.
[www.dirigocorvairs.com]
66 Corsa Convertible, 140, 4sp.




It doesn't leak, it's marking it's territory.

A mirror is a reflection of the miles travelled.

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: freeulster ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:24AM

The best part of the Stinger is it's cache as the original Yenko and exclusivity(originals not clones). Sure you can builod them better and there were better back in the 60's as well

Kent Donnelly
Living in sunny Brigantine Beach NJ
64 Vert
Philadelphia Corvair Assoc and CORSA
"EM's are faster than LM's because we don't have all those extra lug nuts weighting us down"

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: beaminscott ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:24AM

Kevin, I took the "most desirable" request and went from there (creating a summary of the same discussion a few months back). In the event it would draw less money I got the flavor from the past post many would want it just because they touched them.

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:28AM

I really like E/M's with the top down. That classic bathtub look is vairy cool. And I must admit there is one L/M vert I like...Hector Gonzales's V-8 Crown Car. cool smiley

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: "UNSAFE" ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:30AM

End of discussion ! HUMOR

"UNSAFE"
Kevin Willson
65 Monza
Juneau. Alaska

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:33AM

That is the motor on the asphalt...right? cool smiley

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: freeulster ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:37AM

Yep, car rolled over from the looks of it. OR he forgot the atv lift.

Kent Donnelly
Living in sunny Brigantine Beach NJ
64 Vert
Philadelphia Corvair Assoc and CORSA
"EM's are faster than LM's because we don't have all those extra lug nuts weighting us down"

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: 4carbcorvair ()
Date: March 05, 2009 12:51AM








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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: flashpoint ()
Date: March 05, 2009 01:11AM

This LM vert isnt too shabby if I say so myself!

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: sweet66monza ()
Date: March 05, 2009 01:35AM

66 convertible all the way!!!

Cody Hurley
North Idaho (Post Falls)
Mine-66 monza vert 140/PG, loaded with factory options
66 Corsa factory turbo coupe fully documented [corvaircenter.com]
66 Corsa 140 coupe 95% rust free car, build or sell
Corvair sand rail bought for motor. FOR SALE without motor
My dads's vairs-
66 Corsa crown V8 350/4spd coupe-100% home built by father and son
66 monza vert-weber'd 140 race motor/95hp driver motor/4 spd- YENKO clone project in the works
65 monza vert toronado 455 FOR SALE

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: gwydionjhr ()
Date: March 05, 2009 02:50AM

I'll chime in with some dissenting thoughts here (in no particular order)

-69's are desirable because of their rarity, and the fact that they're the end of the line. But the build quailty is generally accepted to be horrible. The astectics of the car IMO is pretty ugly as well with all the afterthought tack-on safety items.

-67's are reputed to have the best build quality of the LMs, but the Corsa was no longer available

-the '65-6 Corsa in either drop top or coupe are easy to love. David E. David described the '65-9 Corvair as one of the most beautiful ever to come out of Detroit. Of the two I prefer the '65, it has some one year only design touches that are unique that I like (taillights in particular)

-stay away from LM sedans unless you can apprecaite their elegance, most can't.

-most of the LM's you'll come across are going to be 110/PGs it's a good solid powertrain combo that will give you the least trouble. For more sporting driving a 140hp engine has the best git-up-n-go off the line, but are prone to dropping valve seats. Any of the turbo cars are a bomb on the highway when they really get into the boost, but a bit of a dog at low speeds where they're essentially operating as an 80hp engine.

-'64s are the best of the EMs for the reasons everyone else has described

-'60s are in alot of ways, the purest Corvairs. It takes time to learn to love them, but they embody what the Corvair was supposed to be. They are over engineered in alot of ways. By '61 GM had realized that they had to cut costs which is why there are so many changes between '60 and '61. Things like the difference between the front end of the '60s and the '61s illistrate my point. In '60 the designers had their way, and they designed a gorgeous front end. The spare was up front to balance the handling, and the battery on the passenger side to offset the driver. By '61 the beancounters were screaming for more trunk space, the result was a convex nose, the spare in the rear and the battery on the driver's side. It can make maintaining a '60 more difficult for this reason. Because they're so different, you'll commonly see them refered to as "Caveman" 'vairs.

-The wagons are just way cool because they're so funky.

I'm going to disagree with Beaminscott in his assessment of the FCs. (FC stands for Forward Control and refers to the fact that the Corvair Trucks and Vans have the front steering wheels controlled by a driver that is in front of them) For a long time FCs were the forgotten stepchild in the Corvair line, but they've been enjoying quite a little renaissance in the last couple of years with good examples commanding as much or more than equal quality Corsa Turbos.

Beaminscott's list was....
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-loadside
-rampside
-Greenbrier 8-door
-Greenbrier 6-door
-Corvan



I'd put the Rampside and the 8-doors well above the loadsides. It's the Ramp that makes a Corvair Pickup different than all others. A Deluxe 8-door is a very pretty vehicle in a totally different way. Loadside's and Corvans are almost all barebones, and not even cool like a barebones '60 is either.

One last suggestion. In order....
#1) Join CORSA! at [www.corvair.org]
#2) Get a copy of the Corvair Basics Manual are read it before purchasing a Corvair. It was written with people like you in mind. (Written, I might add, by several of the gents that populate this list) I think you get a copy when you join CORSA, but don't quote me on that.
#3) Join you local CORSA Chapter. This will help you avoid shady sellers, and they probably know about local Corvairs that are For Sale, but not listed with the general public.

Just my .02

Regards,
Joel Rushworth
1961 Rampside w/Deluxe Scamper Camper
1966 Corsized Cdn Monza Coupe
1967 UV #292
"Kick the Hell out of the Status Quo" - Ed Cole

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: freeulster ()
Date: March 05, 2009 03:59AM

Great post Joel.smileys with beer

Kent Donnelly
Living in sunny Brigantine Beach NJ
64 Vert
Philadelphia Corvair Assoc and CORSA
"EM's are faster than LM's because we don't have all those extra lug nuts weighting us down"

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: beaminscott ()
Date: March 05, 2009 04:03AM

Great points Joel thumbs up

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: March 05, 2009 04:57AM

I think '66 is the best year for lates, and '62 or '64 for the earlies. From the beginning up until '66, the cars were improved each year. After '66, options and features were dropped one by one until the end.

If you want a sportier model, '66 had the most variety. If you are targeting a more middle of the road model, the middle of the road equipment was available in '67 plus the '67 had lots of new safety features.

Iconic "Corvair" but with compromise = 62,64

'62 added sporty models (spyders, convertibles)
'64 most refined of the iconic earlies.

IMHO,about as good as they get = '66

If you like the '66 and don't care about sportiness, then go for '67 (but they're scarce)

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Red Monza 2dr 140/4 EFI 60k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Cypress Green Monza 140/4 4dr
65 White 4-dr 110/AC/PG (parts)
64 GB -CrUnChEd (donor)


20 Tons of parts in boxes

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: Andrew ()
Date: March 05, 2009 05:05AM

Get one of each year!

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: kenFL ()
Date: March 05, 2009 02:22PM

Personally, I'd have to chime in with the 1964 crowd. The body is very unmistakable as a Corvair. The LM's look a little like a small Camaro from the side.

Just saying the EM's seem to have an identity all their own.

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: 4carbcorvair ()
Date: March 05, 2009 02:32PM

Not sure of exact measurements, LM's are almost exactly the same size as the early Camaro. Noses are the same shape, as the Camaro spoiler fits the LM. GM basically took the Corvair, put a front engine, dropped the side body line down and had a Camaro. lol











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Ronnie
Southern Maine.
[www.dirigocorvairs.com]
66 Corsa Convertible, 140, 4sp.




It doesn't leak, it's marking it's territory.

A mirror is a reflection of the miles travelled.

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: March 05, 2009 02:39PM

ROFL! Great post, Ronnie! If the car had some old Uniroyal "Tiger Paw" tires, would that make it a Claw-foot Corvair? hehehe

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
66 Red Monza 2dr 140/4 EFI 60k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Cypress Green Monza 140/4 4dr
65 White 4-dr 110/AC/PG (parts)
64 GB -CrUnChEd (donor)


20 Tons of parts in boxes

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Re: What year model Corvair should I buy?
Posted by: cepak ()
Date: March 05, 2009 04:22PM

Too many late guys swaying his opinion. I'm partial to earlies so here is my daily driver '63. Although I wouldn't mind if I had room having one of each.











Or you can look at the photo album I have of the 2008 Heart of Texas Corvair roundup and see many great looking vairs of all makes and models.
[s307.photobucket.com]

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