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Corvair Center Forum :
Corvair Center Phorum - presented by CORSA
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
scottymac
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Date: May 10, 2023 01:34AM
Paul,
I have a copy of CORVAIR - a Complete Guide, a 1963 special edition publication by CAR LIFE, sister magazine to ROAD & TRACK, for domestic models. In it is a road test of a 4 speed, 80hp, '60 sedan. When I first remembered it, I thought it might be one of the two test vehicles Pete wrote about above. Instead, it was a retrofit by the staff members of the magazine. They were quite pleased with the results.
"It is well known that Chevrolet's Corvair offered an all-synchromesh 4-speed transmission as an option for 1961."
"...we acquired a 4-speed assembly and had it installed on our publisher's own Corvair sedan."
"What the data and figures do not show is the tremendous improvement in the fun aspect of the Corvair, when 4 speeds are available.
"Our greatest praise for the 4-speed box goes for the improved performance it offers, the extreme quietness of the gears, and the enhanced fun of driving the car when so equipped."
Sorry, due to computer problems, I'm unable to scan the complete article for you. Maybe someone else can post a copy?
Scott
Danville, In.
'65 Corsa coupe basket case
'66 Monza coupe
I have a copy of CORVAIR - a Complete Guide, a 1963 special edition publication by CAR LIFE, sister magazine to ROAD & TRACK, for domestic models. In it is a road test of a 4 speed, 80hp, '60 sedan. When I first remembered it, I thought it might be one of the two test vehicles Pete wrote about above. Instead, it was a retrofit by the staff members of the magazine. They were quite pleased with the results.
"It is well known that Chevrolet's Corvair offered an all-synchromesh 4-speed transmission as an option for 1961."
"...we acquired a 4-speed assembly and had it installed on our publisher's own Corvair sedan."
"What the data and figures do not show is the tremendous improvement in the fun aspect of the Corvair, when 4 speeds are available.
"Our greatest praise for the 4-speed box goes for the improved performance it offers, the extreme quietness of the gears, and the enhanced fun of driving the car when so equipped."
Sorry, due to computer problems, I'm unable to scan the complete article for you. Maybe someone else can post a copy?
Scott
Danville, In.
'65 Corsa coupe basket case
'66 Monza coupe
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
stratovair
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Date: May 13, 2023 11:38AM
60 Monza coupe is the rarest of the 60 coupes, only 11,926 were built.
Dave "Turbo" Binnie
Dave "Turbo" Binnie
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
cnicol
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Date: May 13, 2023 01:59PM
stratovair Wrote:
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60 Monza coupe is the rarest of the 60 coupes, only 11,926 were built.
Craig adds: If you count the one that I built in 2015, it would be 11,927 !
Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691
+17 Tons of parts
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60 Monza coupe is the rarest of the 60 coupes, only 11,926 were built.
Craig adds: If you count the one that I built in 2015, it would be 11,927 !
Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691
+17 Tons of parts
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
American Mel
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Date: May 13, 2023 04:24PM
Here ya go Scotty.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
American Mel
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Date: May 13, 2023 04:34PM
I particularly liked this comment in the closing paragraph of the article.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Caveman_1960
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Date: May 13, 2023 04:37PM
Craig, If you count the prototype Mrs. Monza coupe, that makes 11,928. Going further if you count the original prototype Mr. Monza (built from a body-in-white with no model designation) then the total tumbles up to 11,929!
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Timothy Shortle
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Date: May 13, 2023 05:27PM
I have always said there are a few Corvairs older than me but not many. I may need to change that to "but not many (left)". June 22, 1960
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Frank DuVal
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Date: May 13, 2023 11:05PM
How about the Super Monza?
You know, the one our club once owned! Central Virginia Corvair Club
Frank DuVal
Fredericksburg, VA
You know, the one our club once owned! Central Virginia Corvair Club
Frank DuVal
Fredericksburg, VA
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 14, 2023 11:37AM
Tim, I was born during the first weeks of Corvair production (mid-August 1959). It'll never happen but I always wanted to see a 1960 COrvair with "08C" build date.
Fun article BTW.
Enjoy the Corvair! (Especially today 5/14)
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Fun article BTW.
Enjoy the Corvair! (Especially today 5/14)
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 19, 2023 11:29AM
NOW WITH PICTURES...
Anyone want to decode the tag. I couldn't get an engine#.
Lastly -- What's it worth. The guy won't put a price on it but said he bought it for parts (most of which won't fit on his 64 coupe. He wants to sell.
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Anyone want to decode the tag. I couldn't get an engine#.
Lastly -- What's it worth. The guy won't put a price on it but said he bought it for parts (most of which won't fit on his 64 coupe. He wants to sell.
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 19, 2023 11:31AM
More pics
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 19, 2023 11:32AM
More...
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 19, 2023 11:36AM
BTW, it is a 4-speed. (I could shift it through all 4-gears)
- The windshield will need replaced
- The brake pedal goes to the floor
- The carburetors have been removed and one disassembled.
- Did not try to turn the crankshaft but I think the owner said it turns.
He said it is for sale but would not give me a number. He bought it as a parts car for his 64 but none of the parts he wants will fit his 64.
Thanks!
Enjoy the Corvair!
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
- The windshield will need replaced
- The brake pedal goes to the floor
- The carburetors have been removed and one disassembled.
- Did not try to turn the crankshaft but I think the owner said it turns.
He said it is for sale but would not give me a number. He bought it as a parts car for his 64 but none of the parts he wants will fit his 64.
Thanks!
Enjoy the Corvair!
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
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Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
joelsplace
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Date: May 19, 2023 12:15PM
Too nice for a parts car.
Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 145 Corvairs and counting...
Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 145 Corvairs and counting...
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
FoiledAgain
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Date: May 19, 2023 12:47PM
The upholstery has held up remarkably well. My '60 had only scraps left so getting a good look at correct seats is very helpful.
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 19, 2023 12:52PM
The front seat is so nice I think it's been recovered. The back seat looks original.
There may be some thin spots in the floor I couldn't be sure because I didn't crawl under it. It looks pretty solid.
Enjoy the Corvair!
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
There may be some thin spots in the floor I couldn't be sure because I didn't crawl under it. It looks pretty solid.
Enjoy the Corvair!
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question. NOW WITH PICTURES
Posted by:
Timothy Shortle
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Date: May 21, 2023 07:12PM
Car looks pretty nice but Paul you HAVE TO crawl under it to see if it has a cast iron
4 speed or an aluminum case (I doubt that). Is that a 62 instrument cluster? Ignition distributor?
I'll get the report when I see you in Wisconsin next month.
4 speed or an aluminum case (I doubt that). Is that a 62 instrument cluster? Ignition distributor?
I'll get the report when I see you in Wisconsin next month.
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question.
Posted by:
American Mel
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Date: May 21, 2023 07:30PM
Paulsgt Wrote:
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> BTW, it is a 4-speed. (I could shift it through all 4-gears)
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> He said it is for sale but would not give me a number. He bought it as a parts car for his 64 but none of the parts he wants will fit his 64.
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> Thanks!
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> Enjoy the Corvair!
You ran it through ALL FOUR forward gears, AND REVERSE?
Or just through 4 GEAR POSITIONS?
When someone won't give me a price, it is usually because they are hoping that I will state something higher than they are thinking it is worth.
I will often counter with something like, "Well, I don't want to offend you with a price that is terribly lower than your expectations. If you tell me what you are thinking, I can let you know if I can go that high."
This sets the stage as a polite way of deflating their dreams that they own an extremely rare, and valuable million dollar car, while often getting them to let me know where they think the price should be.
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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
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> BTW, it is a 4-speed. (I could shift it through all 4-gears)
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> He said it is for sale but would not give me a number. He bought it as a parts car for his 64 but none of the parts he wants will fit his 64.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Enjoy the Corvair!
You ran it through ALL FOUR forward gears, AND REVERSE?
Or just through 4 GEAR POSITIONS?
When someone won't give me a price, it is usually because they are hoping that I will state something higher than they are thinking it is worth.
I will often counter with something like, "Well, I don't want to offend you with a price that is terribly lower than your expectations. If you tell me what you are thinking, I can let you know if I can go that high."
This sets the stage as a polite way of deflating their dreams that they own an extremely rare, and valuable million dollar car, while often getting them to let me know where they think the price should be.
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question. NOW WITH PICTURES
Posted by:
Paulsgt
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Date: May 21, 2023 09:34PM
Yes, I could find 4-forward gears and reverse. You'll notice in the pic of the interior that shows the shifter it's actually in reverse.
The guy is a long-time used car salesman. He's got the price negotiation thing down. Mel, I will try your approach with him. He's a nice guy and thinks this is a parts car. I don't think he paid much for it and mostly just wants it gone since none of the parts fit his 64 Monza.
Anyone want to take a crack at decoding the trim tag?
Thanks!
Enjoy the Corvair!
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
The guy is a long-time used car salesman. He's got the price negotiation thing down. Mel, I will try your approach with him. He's a nice guy and thinks this is a parts car. I don't think he paid much for it and mostly just wants it gone since none of the parts fit his 64 Monza.
Anyone want to take a crack at decoding the trim tag?
Thanks!
Enjoy the Corvair!
Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI
Re: 1960 700 Coupe question. NOW WITH PICTURES
Posted by:
JimBrandberg
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Date: May 22, 2023 08:07AM
I've got a weird thing going for 60 700s and thought I only liked 4 doors.
I need another one like I need a hole in the head but I'm interested if you could send me contact information.
I may be wrong but those must not be 60 wheels with those hub caps and trim rings. No matter I have a 3rd set of 61 wheels that need a car to go with. I also know about a set of bowtie trim rings. I have a set of the 185/70/13 $28 tires from Wal Mart last month. Oh no my mind is racing and the next thought for what I have is a little crazy...
Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com
I need another one like I need a hole in the head but I'm interested if you could send me contact information.
I may be wrong but those must not be 60 wheels with those hub caps and trim rings. No matter I have a 3rd set of 61 wheels that need a car to go with. I also know about a set of bowtie trim rings. I have a set of the 185/70/13 $28 tires from Wal Mart last month. Oh no my mind is racing and the next thought for what I have is a little crazy...
Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com
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