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Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 18, 2023 04:15AM

Whose beauty was this coupe before the crash? Looks quite nice with factory A/C too.

Copart Atlanta GA -North
[www.copart.com]

105377W1057641

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5






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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 18, 2023 08:26AM

Vairy nice looking car.
A/C '67 too. sad smiley
Mark, you got that one in your A/C registry?

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: gerg ()
Date: January 18, 2023 02:44PM

Wasn't that the car the fellow who made the LED taillights owned? He passed a few years back? Beautiful car.

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I think his was a CORSA

gerg
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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: January 18, 2023 04:38PM

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gerg
Wasn't that the car the fellow who made the LED taillights owned? He passed a few years back? Beautiful car.

You are referring to Ben Carey who was a member of Corsa SC and owned a 65 Turbo Corsa.

Although the car shown in the Copart auction doesn't appear to be a Corsa, it was my understanding that his son was involved in a wreck and totalled the car sometime after Ben passed away.

Dean F. Gemberling
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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 18, 2023 05:45PM

ihscomputers Wrote:
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>...it was my understanding that his son was involved in a wreck and totalled the car sometime after Ben passed away.


Here is a pic of Ben's 180 Corsa after the wreck. Sorry it is so small. The two cars do look similar at a glance.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5






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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: gerg ()
Date: January 18, 2023 06:35PM

Ouch. I saw Georgia, and seemed to remember a crash. I guess the black paint and torque thrust type wheels made a connection in my mind.

gerg
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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: January 18, 2023 07:11PM

The Copart car is an easy fix. Not kidding. I've repaired much worse. With care and pulling equipment one has a good chance of saving the left fender/front panel.

But I'm sure the bidder is just a yard that is going to part it out. No vision.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: January 18, 2023 07:18PM

I don't see the final winning bid. The "pull and pay" type yards place the minimum
bid for many many cars at the auctions knowing they won't get them all but they will
get some.

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 18, 2023 09:10PM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> The Copart car is an easy fix. Not kidding. I've repaired much worse. With care and pulling equipment one has a good chance of saving the left fender/front panel.
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> But I'm sure the bidder is just a yard that is going to part it out. No vision.


Yeah, I was wondering why it ended up at the auction in the first place???
If that were mine, I wouldn't have let it go.

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 19, 2023 04:26AM

Timothy Shortle Wrote:
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> I don't see the final winning bid. The "pull and pay" type yards place the minimum
> bid for many many cars at the auctions knowing they won't get them all but they will
> get some.


I didn't dig too deep but I think you might have to be a Copart member to see the final results of completed auctions. The bidding was over $2700 when I posted the link about 5 hours before the auction closed and I don't recall seeing a reserve at that time.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: January 19, 2023 05:05AM

VIN #5761 isn't on my '67 registry.

The reason many people turn in their cars to the insurance company is because they have the mistaken idea that they have to. Nope, it's not mandated in any state law. You ALWAYS have the option of keeping the car, regardless of what the settlement agent says. They cannot force you to turn it over.

-Mark

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: January 19, 2023 05:13AM

I know there are lots of Black cars with Torque Thrusts, but it looks like a former JTVairs car that used to reside in Iowa.

Eric P.
DeWitt, IA

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 19, 2023 07:50AM

67 airvair Wrote:
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> VIN #5761 isn't on my '67 registry.
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> The reason many people turn in their cars to the insurance company is because they have the mistaken idea that they have to. Nope, it's not mandated in any state law. You ALWAYS have the option of keeping the car, regardless of what the settlement agent says. They cannot force you to turn it over.
>
> -Mark


Well, that's true.
When a drunk crossed both lanes of traffic and hit our parked '66 Mustang head-on, I told the insurance that I wanted to keep the car.
He first told me I couldn't, but when I insisted that I wouldn't settle, without keeping the car, he quickly changed his tune.
That Corvair looks saveable, unless the body is totally wracked.
Even if it is, the parts are definitely worth a lot more than the $2700.oo bid last reported.

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: January 19, 2023 08:34AM

Well if the bid was at $2700 that car will not be at a pick a part type yard.

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: January 19, 2023 01:39PM

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AM Mel
I told the insurance that I wanted to keep the car.
He first told me I couldn't, but when I insisted that I wouldn't settle, without keeping the car, he quickly changed his tune.

Having been in the collision repair business, I've had this discussion with customers many time. It is the OWNER'S car and they can do what ever they wish to it, choosing to have it repaired, choosing where to have it repaired, etc.

Where the rush to do it wrong comes in is the rental car, when the insurance company threatens to pull the rental car, people cave. No need for rental, no rush to decide.

Back in the day I also did a lot of keeping the "total" on the road, not perfect repair back to showroom condition, but keeping the person in a car to get to work/play/etc. without a new payment book. Just have the owner never give up the title to the insurance company.

New title laws I'm not sure of. But no where should the picture of the damage to that Corvair exceed 75% of its value! (one of the mandatory total-never back on road I've heard quoted).

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: 67 airvair ()
Date: January 19, 2023 07:31PM

Frank DuVal wrote:

New title laws I'm not sure of. But no where should the picture of the damage to that Corvair exceed 75% of its value! (one of the mandatory total-never back on road I've heard quoted).

A friend once had a '61 Chevy (full sized) once as his daily beater. Some guy backed into the front end, caving in the grill and puncturing the radiator. The insurance company wanted to total it. They offered $100 settlement and he kept the car. With the $100 he got a new radiator, threw away the grill, and continued to drive it.

So extent of damage is irrelevant. It's all by percent of market value, as Frank points out. Maybe the Corvair isn't as highly valued as we thought?

-Mark

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: January 20, 2023 06:25AM

67 airvair Wrote:
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> Maybe the Corvair isn't as highly valued as we thought?

Ding, ding, ding! smiling smiley

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: wittsend ()
Date: January 20, 2023 08:56AM

What doesn't make sense is Hagerty putting YOUR car up for auction..., the car you want to keep. I can't see how they had the authority to do that (intent to sell a car they didn't own) and then apparently back out of a completed auction transaction (again a questionable action) unless they had a ridiculous reserve with the intended to never sell in the first place (yet again a questionable act). I understand WHY they would do that but find the method lacking ethic.

I'm not contesting what the insurance company told you, it just seems their actions were very questionable in the way they went about giving you what you wanted. Glad it all worked out favorably for you in the end. I hear a lot of CoPart horror stories. Maybe these types of practices are part of the reason why.

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: MtnVairMike ()
Date: January 20, 2023 09:18AM

azdave Wrote:
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> 67 airvair Wrote:
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> > Maybe the Corvair isn't as highly valued as we thought?
>
> Ding, ding, ding! smiling smiley


Not according to Hagerty's value guides.

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Re: Crashed 67 at Copart auction ending today
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: January 20, 2023 04:28PM

So you didn't have an agreed value policy with Hagerty?

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