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Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: statue4 ()
Date: September 15, 2022 03:52PM

Howdy. Last month I got my second Corvair, a 1969 Corvertible. I have since gotten it running and driven it from Wisconsin to Colorado. At first glance the body and interior look pretty great, but the undercarriage terrifies me. It was originally sold in Chicago and I bought it in Wisconsin, so one can confidently assume it's spent most of it's life in the salty midwest. What are some repairs I can do to be less afraid of my pretty little convertible snapping in half? The pinch weld crumbles if I barely touch it. I have already decided to only let one door be open at a time haha.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: September 15, 2022 04:02PM

The first step is to carefully examine the rockers because those are the structural "backbone" of convertibles.

Hopefully, your convertible isn't Wisconsin swiss cheese...smiling smiley

Dean F. Gemberling
Columbus, Georgia
Heart of Georgia Corvair Club Webmaster
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1963 Rampside w/305 V8 - Built by Ken Arnold in 1998

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: September 15, 2022 04:08PM

Go to Clark's catalog and compare what sheet metal they offer versus what you need.

Probably should look at the front door pillars, also.

Then, you have a decision to make: Actual condition of the car versus your skill / money. And, desire.

People have replaced rockers and floor pans...

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: Layton Curtis ()
Date: September 18, 2022 04:53AM

If the pinch welds are toast it is time to look for another car. You are looking at highly skilled major work.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: September 18, 2022 09:14AM

Statue4 where are you in Colorado? I am in Golden a suburb west of Denver. I would offer to visit with you and look at your car sometime but I don't do body and paint. If rust is very bad I would be concerned over brake line quality too.

There is a good club here in Denver area and one in C/Springs too.

Let me know you are coming too. 303.278.4889 sometimes I am gone for parts etc

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: September 18, 2022 12:57PM

Go to www.corvairkid.com and rummage around until you find the pictures of his restoration of a 1966 Corsa convertible from Canada. He replaced a lot of the cowl parts along with both rocker panels. I have no idea what it cost, and even if I did, I am certain it would shock you into giving up on your car. Restoration work in a restoration shop is roughly about $100 per hour. Assuming that it takes 40 hours to replace the rocker panels, that is $4000! Then you will have to add to that figure the cost to have the correct rocker panels manufactured. Rust never sleeps, so you will have to constantly be after it until it is all remediated. I can see a complete restoration on a car such as yours costing $75,000 - $100,000.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: statue4 ()
Date: October 17, 2022 03:18PM

I finally got around to snapping some photos of the bottom of the convertible.
The driver's side floor isn't so bad:


This is the worst bit of the driver's side rocker, but who knows what the bondo/rust situation is like under the paint:

This is on the driver's side. There should be a seam here, but it has been bondo'd over and there are a few other obvious bondo spots.

Here is that same area on the passenger side:

And the passenger rocker:

The passenger pinch weld is what really worries me:


And, of course, it has a lovely rust spot under the battery:

The seller included a patch panel for it, but it really isn't a priority to me right now.
When I had the carpet lifted up I saw a repair attempt on the passenger side. I'll snag a photo of that when I get a chance.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: October 17, 2022 03:38PM

She's a parts car, JUNK



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/17/2022 03:39PM by Mel.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: October 17, 2022 04:13PM

Have you done the test where you open the doors with the top down and then stand on the center floor while someone else gently closes the doors to see how much the body sags? The gap at the top of the door jamb will narrow slightly but sometimes the doors won't close at all because the body sags so much.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: October 17, 2022 04:23PM

I've done that level of "re-construction" before and IMO... that's a parts car.

Dan Brizendine, Circle City Corvairs
'64 8 door Greenbrier, +.060, stroked 1/4", 188 ci, 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: jfreez ()
Date: October 17, 2022 04:27PM

you should have waited until Halloween to post pictures that scary

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: October 17, 2022 04:29PM

Run for the hills...find another car.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: statue4 ()
Date: October 17, 2022 04:31PM

Dave, that test sounds terrifying, haha. I have not tried it yet.

The current plan for the car is just continue to drive it, but not drop big money on anything. If someone comes along who just HAS to have one of the 500-something '69 convertibles, then they can buy it and rotisserie it and make it fresh again. Otherwise I'll just continue to drive it, take care of it, and hope that it doesn't snap in half.

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: October 18, 2022 05:33AM

Good plan to not put much money into it and just enjoy it.

All this time I pictured Rear Engine Specialists and Golden, CO as being down by Colorado Springs.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: October 18, 2022 09:03AM

I wouldn't drive that car on the road .. (rust bucket) , good way to get sued for everything you own !!! if you got in an accident. It's a parts car .

Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: MtnVairMike ()
Date: October 18, 2022 01:02PM

What are the last 4#'s of the Vin?
Would be interested to know if it's on the 69 Registry.

Thanks,

Mike

1966 Monza Convertible, 140HP-4 speed, Ermine White
1969 Monza Convertible, 110HP-PG, Frost Green

Black Mountain,NC

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Re: Repairing structural rust?
Posted by: statue4 ()
Date: October 18, 2022 06:06PM

MtnVairMike Wrote:
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> What are the last 4#'s of the Vin?
> Would be interested to know if it's on the 69 Registry.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike


The last four are 3383. I added it to the registry at Corvair.org recently. Have yet to include a photo.

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