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![]() Corvair Center Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: August 27, 2022 10:39AM I'm working on a '60 4-door for a daily driver. The area on the inner fender where the combustion blower mounts was completely rusted away so we cut that area out of a '64 car that never had a gas heater. I imagine there's supposed to be a "can" that the blower motor goes into to protect it from water and slop inside the fenderwell. Does anyone have one they could sell? I didn't see anything listed in the Clarks catalog and haven't looked in P&A 30-C yet. I don't have a '60 Assembly Manual but should look at other years for possible gas heater information. I do have a '60 Service Manual and a kit installation instructions when it comes to getting the gas heater running. We used parts from 3 gas heaters to make one although we could make up another one if we had to. Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
caroseiii
() Date: August 27, 2022 12:08PM Corvair Ranch C.A. Rose Metairie, LA 1962 Spyders Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
junkman
() Date: August 27, 2022 03:44PM I have a box of NOS gas heater parts, and I will check to see if there is such an animal in there. I also have a complete NOS gas heater in the box and can check to see if it came in the accessory kit. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Woodstock CT... Located on the Connecticut / Massachusetts border, approximately 6 miles from the center of Southbridge MA. About 45 minutes from Hartford CT. 1 1/2 hours West of Boston MA. Woodstock CT to Los Angeles CA 2,937.1 miles. 1 Mile as the crow flies to Big Bird's nest. Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
irfgt
() Date: August 28, 2022 09:00AM Sounds to me as though what he is wanting is a part of the trunk sheet metal that would not be a part of the heater but a part installed by Fisher body. Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
junkman
() Date: August 28, 2022 11:48AM I thought so also, but then I remembered that only 1960 had the gas heater installed at the factory on all Corvairs. In fact, I don't know if a heater delete option was available for the 1960 Corvair like it was for the rest of the Chevrolet line. Heater deletes were common in the South where they almost never needed a heater. I doubt that the Fisher body plant would install a shield in every car when the gas heater was not installed in every car. I don't know what year the gas heater was discontinued as a factory-installed option and became a dealer-installed option only. I was thinking that if there was anything, it was more likely a shield such as what was used to protect the horns on the early cars. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Woodstock CT... Located on the Connecticut / Massachusetts border, approximately 6 miles from the center of Southbridge MA. About 45 minutes from Hartford CT. 1 1/2 hours West of Boston MA. Woodstock CT to Los Angeles CA 2,937.1 miles. 1 Mile as the crow flies to Big Bird's nest. Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
caroseiii
() Date: August 29, 2022 01:03AM Not Fisher Body, Chevrolet. It’s a heater part that is part of the combustions air blower assembly. Shaped like a top hat. Maybe 6257763. Crawfordrose C.A. Rose Metairie, LA 1962 Spyders Attachments: ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: August 29, 2022 06:34AM Yes, Cover shown above in Section 8.856 is what I need. Since the section of the inner fender where that goes was rusted away I imagine the cover had disintegrated as well. It would lead a hard life with salt and such directly off the tire. Back in the day with other Corvairs I would sometimes get the whole fenderwell packed with ice and rubbing on the tire. It would be hard to make something with the roundness and all. Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
RexJohnson
() Date: August 29, 2022 10:02AM Isn't this part about the size and shape of a chrome center cap for a custom 8 lug pick up wheel? RJ tools Salem,Oregon ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
caroseiii
() Date: August 29, 2022 07:28PM This gas heater fan motor cover is a common used part. The fan motor delete cover even more so because all direct air heated cars have them. Crawford C.A. Rose Metairie, LA 1962 Spyders Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: August 29, 2022 08:49PM My associate thinks he has a combustion blower cover. I'm expecting it to be about the size of my oatmeal bowl or like a bowler hat for a lad about age 4. What seems strange to me is this cover came off a '63 with AC and no gas heater. Was there something for AC that would've been similar? Is there supposed to be ventilation holes in this cover in order to draw combustion air from the fenderwell area? A provision to drain water? It's so close to the tire. There's something I don't understand about the return line tee under the front of the car. It has provision for 3/16 lines on all 3 sides and one side has a metering hole sort of like a carburetor jet. It was plumbed with this metered hole on the return to tank side. I would expect it to be on the side that goes to the gas heater. Is it plumbed wrong as I suspect or am I missing something? I'm about to sit down with the '60 Service Manual but thought I'd ask before you folks go to bed. I'm just trying to get everything done that makes sense to do before I install the gas tank including a new exhaust pipe. I'm going to tee off a 4 # electric fuel pump right there under the passengers feet. Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: August 29, 2022 11:30PM After reading the '60 Manual it seems like the tee was installed correctly. Straight through is what goes to the heater and off to the side is return to tank. I need to not think of that side like a carburetor jet. It must have something that moves to open that side for a return to tank if pressure get excessive. I wonder when you're driving the car with the heater off how much gas is actually returning to the tank. It will be interesting to see this thing through. Lots of instruments and the old band hasn't played together in 30 years. Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
junkman
() Date: August 30, 2022 12:35AM caroseiii Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This gas heater fan motor cover is a common used part. The fan motor delete cover even more so because all direct air heated cars have them. > > Crawford The cover was discontinued in the 1964 model year, with the exception of that very early production when Chevrolet was using up the leftover 1963 bodies after the 1963 model production had ceased in July 1963 for the change over to the 1964 model year cars. I remember Bill Hubbell asking this question trying to establish when they ran out of 1963 bodies and started to produce the 1964 body. My 1964 Spyder Coupe is one of the earliest Spyders produced. # 2 or 3 if I remember correctly. Built the first day of production in the 1st week of production of the 1964 model cars in Auguast 1963 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Woodstock CT... Located on the Connecticut / Massachusetts border, approximately 6 miles from the center of Southbridge MA. About 45 minutes from Hartford CT. 1 1/2 hours West of Boston MA. Woodstock CT to Los Angeles CA 2,937.1 miles. 1 Mile as the crow flies to Big Bird's nest. Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
caroseiii
() Date: August 30, 2022 02:55AM Yes, that's true Junk, the 64 eventually installed new passenger side sheet metal to eliminate the gas heater air intake semi-circle. Jim, I saw a 60 with A/C and gas heater that was sold out of Gainesville FL a long time ago. I never could figure out how they got the gas heater air distributor to fit in the same space with the AC evaporator box. Maybe your car had both also. Post a photo of the under side of the dash where the air blows down on the floor. Crawford C.A. Rose Metairie, LA 1962 Spyders Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: August 30, 2022 07:11AM I don't have the '63 with AC here anymore. The front half has been repurposed on an El Corvino project by my associate. I don't see it very often but I can see if he will have a look. I used to have the car and I'm pretty sure it never had a gas heater so I don't know why it had a combustion blower cover in the fenderwell. Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
junkman
() Date: August 30, 2022 08:30AM caroseiii Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, that's true Junk, the 64 eventually installed new passenger side sheet metal to eliminate the gas heater air intake semi-circle. > > Jim, I saw a 60 with A/C and gas heater that was sold out of Gainesville FL a long time ago. I never could figure out how they got the gas heater air distributor to fit in the same space with the AC evaporator box. Maybe your car had both also. Post a photo of the under side of the dash where the air blows down on the floor. > > > Crawford A better question is how did they mount the condenser in the engine compartment with that very large air filter set up? I know that the ACC Amblewagons came with both an air heater and a gas heater from the factory! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Woodstock CT... Located on the Connecticut / Massachusetts border, approximately 6 miles from the center of Southbridge MA. About 45 minutes from Hartford CT. 1 1/2 hours West of Boston MA. Woodstock CT to Los Angeles CA 2,937.1 miles. 1 Mile as the crow flies to Big Bird's nest. Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
Vern in Bend
() Date: August 30, 2022 04:47PM Jim, I found an NOS 'blower motor cover' on a shelf in my shop, it's ~ 4" in diameter and ~ 4.5" deep. PM me if you want it Regards, Vern Bend, Oregon '64 Corvan, daily driver - 48 years '64 Rampside, personal driver - 30 years - SOLD 9/21 '67 Monza Cpe, original owner - 33k miles '80 Vanagon stalled project - 2.8 Corvair & T5 5-speed '81 Vanagon high-top panel van - Now with Subi EJ253 & Subarugears 5-speed '19 Subaru Forester Sport Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
irfgt
() Date: August 30, 2022 05:24PM I don't believe he wants the cover since it appears he is using the gas heater. Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
Vern in Bend
() Date: August 30, 2022 10:56PM I think there has been confusion through this thread because the 'blower motor cover' (the "Can") and the no-gas-heater block-off plate are both "cover" in the parts catalog and the comments. The part I have is the "Can", referred to as the "blower motor cover" in the gas heater install instructions. Regards, Vern Bend, Oregon '64 Corvan, daily driver - 48 years '64 Rampside, personal driver - 30 years - SOLD 9/21 '67 Monza Cpe, original owner - 33k miles '80 Vanagon stalled project - 2.8 Corvair & T5 5-speed '81 Vanagon high-top panel van - Now with Subi EJ253 & Subarugears 5-speed '19 Subaru Forester Sport Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: August 31, 2022 07:33AM Thanks but we came up with a cover "can". It has no holes for drawing air or draining water, it takes air for combustion from inside the trunk. I was confused about my associate having one in his formerly AC equipped 63 that didn't have a gas heater. Turns out it was not installed in the car but loose in a box of parts that came with it. We've got the assemblies back in the chassis but I'm not going to try firing the gas heater yet. Too many other things on the list and I want to start driving this thing. Probably best to give it a proper amount of time for testing and tuning. I came up with a way to mount a Facet pump with Iso-Mounts that I thought was looking good until the gas heater exhaust pipe wanted to occupy the same space. DOH! Fortunately the Plan B wasn't too bad. We had a look at the points on the end of the combustion fan and cleaned them up a little. The gap looks okay for now. It's interesting that you have to unsolder the adjustment screw and solder it back up again for a change. I skimmed the spark plug electrode gap information and it didn't make sense to me. The gap must be to the side of the housing and there must be a way you can remove something to see it. I also didn't understand why you would need a special tool to bend a wire. It will probably makes sense once I actually go to do it. I see the combustion blower to burner hose C3806R is $46 (gulp). It's wire reinforced and I suppose somewhat heat resistant. I suppose it's not really worth my time to look for a substitute unless someone just happens to have one? Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Re: Gas Heater Combustion Blower Mount "Can" Posted by:
JimBrandberg
() Date: September 01, 2022 10:43PM A gas heater hose is up 10% from 2021. I seriously doubt if it's because new stock came in. Raising prices across the board sticks in my craw a little but I suppose it's common practice. Jim Brandberg Isanti, MN CorvairRepair.com ![]() Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum. |