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3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: edconnolly ()
Date: August 19, 2022 08:44AM

Dema Elgin straightened and profiled a NOS 3872304 cam yesterday. Out of the GM package, there was .003 in. runout, which he corrected to no more than .001. If you would like the detailed profile data, PM me with your email address. The site will not accept PDF attachments.

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: edconnolly ()
Date: August 19, 2022 08:46AM

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: wittsend ()
Date: August 19, 2022 10:18AM

I wonder if these cams were bent from day one..., or got that way from sitting horizontal for a L-O-N-G time? Someone graciously gave me an NOS 80HP cam that to their disappointment had been packaged as a #304 cam. When it arrived I found the cam to be .004 out of straight at the center. It is amazing how much the cam will visually rise and bind even in a half case.

All was not lost. While nerve wracking I put the outer journals into V-blocks, ground a piece of steel to roughly the non-journal/lobe area of the cam, closed my eyes to a squint, held my breath, said a prayer and gave it a whack near the center (several times). You can see the steel deforming on the top of the piece I made from the striking force. The end result was I got the runout to .0005 and it smoothly turned in the saddles.

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: August 19, 2022 11:46AM

Anyone know the specs on Camshaft straighness on an OEM Cam?

I bet its lot more than you think!!


Eric P.
DeWitt, IA

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: August 19, 2022 12:04PM

isucorvair Wrote:
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> Anyone know the specs on Camshaft straighness on an OEM Cam?
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> I bet its lot more than you think!!
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> Eric P.
> DeWitt, IA


In the shop manual, it says that the runout spec for the cam journals is .002". My N.O.S. turbo cam had .007" runout, and coupled with others that have have measured the runout on other NOS cams, it sort of confirms the rumors that I've heard that GM did not scrap their out of spec parts... they sent those to parts houses!!!

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: August 19, 2022 04:46PM

When I rebuilt my engine several years ago and asked the group if one was for sale .I was warned about this and bought a clarks 304 repo. It was less than. 001 out and has worked well.

J.O.

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: August 19, 2022 07:18PM

I have a Dems Elgin custom grind in 362 and it spec'd out just what he said it was smiling smiley

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Re: 3872304 Cam Check
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: August 22, 2022 12:47PM

wittsend Wrote:
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> I wonder if these cams were bent from day one..., or got that way from sitting horizontal for a L-O-N-G time? Someone graciously gave me an NOS 80HP cam that to their disappointment had been packaged as a #304 cam. When it arrived I found the cam to be .004 out of straight at the center. It is amazing how much the cam will visually rise and bind even in a half case.
>
> All was not lost. While nerve wracking I put the outer journals into V-blocks, ground a piece of steel to roughly the non-journal/lobe area of the cam, closed my eyes to a squint, held my breath, said a prayer and gave it a whack near the center (several times). You can see the steel deforming on the top of the piece I made from the striking force. The end result was I got the runout to .0005 and it smoothly turned in the saddles.

Over the years I've used this method to straighten several cams that were bent because they had not been properly supported while having the gear pressed on.

Dan Brizendine, Circle City Corvairs
'64 8 door Greenbrier, +.060, stroked 1/4", 188 ci, 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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