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65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: 66ragcorsa ()
Date: August 13, 2022 08:40PM

Hi all. I have a complete powertrain for a 65 car and wondering if it will fit in a Rampside? I am looking at one tomorrow and the powertrain is missing. It would be nice to know if what I have would drop in. Thanks!

Steve T
Michigan
1966 Corsa Convertible
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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: RexJohnson ()
Date: August 13, 2022 08:46PM

The '65 car wouldn't have a place for the speedo cable. The late diff axle yokes are bolted in and on the FC they need to float. If you left the bolt out and plugged the holes the axle might hit the side bearing adjusters because they stick out further on a late. You could use the '65 trans and input shaft with an early diff.

RJ tools
Salem,Oregon

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: 66ragcorsa ()
Date: August 13, 2022 08:50PM

Rex, funny you chimed in. I actually want to use the FC trans you rebuilt for me with a 65 car posi transaxle and a 140 engine I have. Sounds like that will not work though?

Steve T
Michigan
1966 Corsa Convertible
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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: August 14, 2022 09:26AM

No speedometer output on the 65 and up differentials. (they are fed from the left front wheel like some Oldsmobiles)

You would need to use the early side adjusters, which have the bearing races, so that should men need to use new bearings.

I have stuck a 65 transaxle in an FC to flat tow it. There were complaints from parts not playing well with each other.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: August 14, 2022 01:20PM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> No speedometer output on the 65 and up differentials.

Unless of course it's a 65 FC diff. One of those will bolt right in and drive the speedo.

Been aircooled since 1973
Northwest Ohio 45840

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 14, 2022 04:29PM

Wagon Master Wrote:
> [size2=medium] Unless of course it's a 65 FC diff. One of those will bolt right in and drive the speedo.[/size]

Craig replies: Only if you switch the R&P carrier and side yokes! 65-up car differential internal parts are about 3/4" wider than FC/EM internals. The extra width Porsche rear axles and bearings into a bind AFIK. I'm willing to be wrong but pretty sure I'm right.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: RexJohnson ()
Date: August 14, 2022 06:11PM

The '65 FC diff would fit perfectly as Wagon Master said because it is for an FC. As Craig noted the '65 car one would not.

RJ tools
Salem,Oregon

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: August 14, 2022 06:13PM

Okay, I am now thoroughly confused! eye rolling smiley
When/where did Porsche axles come into play in this conversation? confused smiley
I think I missed that post.

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 15, 2022 04:18AM

American Mel Wrote:
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"Okay, I am now thoroughly confused! eye rolling smiley
When/where did Porsche axles come into play in this conversation? confused smiley
I think I missed that post."

Craig replies re Porsche axles: Auto-correct will probably lead to war someday. That's so far out in left field I don't even know what word was replaced. Please disregard.


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Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: dryenko ()
Date: August 15, 2022 05:15AM

Craig is correct.
The LM [ 65-69 diff carrier is too wide to work.
The carrier would work if a EM carrier was installed with the correct EM side adjusters.
I have done this on a 64 to use the LM case and a custom bracket for the cross spring.

Bob C aka Dryenko
Dobson, NC 27017

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: August 15, 2022 07:44AM

Your basically looking at mounting a 65 or Late powertrain in an Early/FC vehicle.
About the only part that may be directly used is the transmission and it's input shaft if it's a Std trans. The Powerglides can be used plus the engine with Early tin's and rear engine mount.

Back in 1972 my Brother got all excited having picked up a 64 Spyder transaxil. He pulled the transaxil and engine out of his 4 door. Rolled the 64 transaxil under and right away noticed the 64 would not go in his 67! All that work for nothing! eye rolling smiley. That's how we learned back in the day.

Corventure Dave

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Re: 65 car transaxle fit a Rampside?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: August 16, 2022 03:45PM

There was a 64 (?) Corvan at the convention in Georgia last month that had a LM rear suspension and MT transaxle.

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