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WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: August 04, 2022 07:26PM

Not sure what year but I understand there is a really low 1st gear trans from an FC ??? I would like to buy one

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: August 04, 2022 07:37PM

1961 F/C 4 speed.

4.27:1 first gear.

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: August 04, 2022 08:00PM

As I understand the "stump puller" low 1st gear FC transmission was a very short lived item. It was not a full year unit but more like a half a year thing.

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 04, 2022 10:51PM

Timothy Shortle Wrote:
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> As I understand the "stump puller" low 1st gear FC transmission was a very short lived item. It was not a full year unit but more like a half a year thing.

Craig responds: That's my understanding as well,
Timothy.
The powertrain package consisted of the 4.26 low gear transmission, a 3.27 axle, and the 80hp engine.

The uber-low 4.26:1 first gear provided good off-the-line acceleration despite the 3.27 axle. I speculate that high-gear, highway performance was unacceptable when loaded because the 80hp engine didnt have enough power to maintain speed with the 3.27 axle. When the axle was changed id-year to 3.89, highway performance recovered, the low first gear was no longer needed, and it was discontinued.


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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: momach ()
Date: August 04, 2022 11:48PM

And, is there a way to ID one of these transmissions?

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: momach ()
Date: August 05, 2022 12:06AM

To answer my own question, info taken from Corvanatics;

3782978(case number) 1st-4.26 2nd-2.35 3rd-1.48 4th-1.00 rev-4.27

3785452(part number) - was the "1st design" '61 4sp transmission. It's identified in the earliest P&A catalogs and the engineering documents indicate it to have a 4.26 1st gear; changes to the engineering document correspond with those described in Technical Service Bulletin #690. [See notes below the 4 Speed Transmission table about earlier prototype 4.66 transmissions.]

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: v8vair ()
Date: August 05, 2022 08:48AM

Looks like the 64 65 FC trans is what I need , 3.65 first with the larger shaft

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: Gatorfly ()
Date: August 05, 2022 12:02PM

v8vair Wrote:
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> Looks like the 64 65 FC trans is what I need , 3.65 first with the larger shaft


Well how about this One? Price is certainly right especially for a post unit but not sure if you are close enough to make it worth the trip. The Islands are a beautiful place to visit this time of year grinning smiley

Is this yours Kevin?

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: RexJohnson ()
Date: August 05, 2022 12:34PM

If you can't find a '64-'5 FC 4sp I believe that you can make a hybrid version with much more common parts. You would need a first design '64 car 4sp and 1st, 2nd gears plus the counter gear from an early 4sp. Not the super low 1st gear trans but the common one used in everything. The counter gear of the early trans is the same as the first design '64 FC trans. A first design counter gear has 1 oil hole where as the 2nd design has 2. The early mainshaft gears will fit right on the '64-'5 mainshaft. The 1st and 2nd syncro assy is the same for all of the '61 -'5 4sp's. For some reason the '4-'5 mainshaft is about .030" longer between the 1st and 2nd syncro assy and the rear bearing. To make up for this the '4-'5 trans has a thicker washer between 1st gear and the rear bearing. I have not put a trans together to try this but I have assembled a mainshaft and everything fits. By doing this you would have the wider ratios of the early trans but you would have the better mainshaft, larger input shaft and the larger reverse idler gear. You would want to use the correct syncro rings to match the year of the gears as needed.

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: 63turbo ()
Date: August 05, 2022 01:27PM

Gatorfly Wrote:
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> Well how about this One? Price is certainly right especially for a post unit but not sure if you are close enough to make it worth the trip. The Islands are a beautiful place to visit this time of year grinning smiley
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> Is this yours Kevin?
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No, that is one of the "other" Corvair guys on San Juan Island- I've known him since the 1980's.

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Re: WTB Super Low 1st gear FC Transmission
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: August 05, 2022 03:24PM

That is a great deal up in Washington. I wish I was closer. I don't think I have ever seen the HL diff. code before. 3.89 posi MT. If I was closer...

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