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Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 27, 2022 03:19PM

Thought I would ask , what lug nut torque for mounting the adapters to the hubs ?

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 27, 2022 03:22PM

These

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 27, 2022 04:03PM

I was guessing 75 ?

Dayton install sheet here for knock off wire wheels.......

TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS
LUG NUT SIZE
3/8"
7/16"
1/2"
12mm
14mm
TORQUE/ FT. LBS.
45
60
75
70
85


Dayton Wheel Concepts
115 Compark Road – Dayton, Ohio 45459
800-862-6000 – www.daytonwirewheel.com
Installation Instructions for Dayton Knock-off Wheels
Warning:
Read before mounting tire on wheels. Wheels cannot be returned for fitment reasons after tires have been mounted.
Power assisted tire changers can cause damage to wheels. Tubes must be used with tubetype wire wheels Stud length
exceeding one and one-eighth inch ( > 1 1
/8" ) will not allow wheels to be tightened properly. Radial tires must be
remounted on the same side of the vehicle they were removed from. Do not change direction of rotation. Do not inflate
over 50 psi (40 psi in California). Read and observe all warning and instruction labels affixed to wheels.
WHEELS CAN DETACH FROM CAR WITHOUT WARNING IF YOU:
1. Use studs longer than 1-1/8” (Item cool smiley.
2. Install adapters on wrong side of car (Item cool smiley.
3. Use parts that are worn out (Item C).
4. Fail to tighten caps (Item G).
5. Tow vehicle backwards.
Clean hubs
Inspect hubs and brake drums for any obstructions, (lock clips, rivets, balancing weights, etc.). Remove or resolve any obstruction that prevents a flush fit
between the wheel and axle hub.
Install Adapters
Check stud length. If the stud is longer that 1-1/8” long cut the stud to shorten or use a spacer behind the adapter.
To install adapters correctly place hub adapter marked “left”, and with white mesh thread guard, on left side of car. Hub adapter marked “right”, and with red or
brown mesh thread protector, must be installed on right side of car. THIS IS IMPORTANT! DO NOT INSTALL ANY OTHER WAY!
After hub adapters have been placed on hubs, be sure that adapter plate fits flat against hub and brake mounting pad. If there is any interference point of contact
must be found and any high point removed. If this is not done wheels will not run true when installed.
When tightening lugnuts:
1. Under no circumstances should high impact wrenches be used to secure lugnuts as this can cause damage to the adapter and can result in improper
lugnut torque.
2. Minimum thread engagement must be at least one times the diameter of the stud i.e., the typical thread engagement for a ½" X 20 thread would be a
minimum of ½" of thread. Again, if spacers are used, be certain that the spacer is in place during this inspection.
3. Do not lubricate the lugnuts or stud threads.
4. Run all lugs up fully before tightening.
5. Tighten all lugnuts using a criss-cross pattern to assure the even
distribution of pressure while tightening the lugnuts.
6. Once installed adapters should rotate freely by hand with no
rubbing or interference.
7. Remove plastic mesh thread protectors.
8. Apply a thin coating of grease to threads of adapter. Also, place a
thin coating of grease on taper or bevel on back of the knock-off
caps and in the cap threads. Keep dirt away from knock-off cap
threads.
Important:
Be certain that you use the proper Dayton Wheel Concepts lugs for your specific Dayton Wire Wheel. Use of any other lug nut will void your warranty.
Tire Mounting Information
Follow tire manufacturers rim width recommendations when installing tires.
Install air valve stem on tubeless wheels. Use care to insure proper fit and non-leakage.
Tubes must be used on tubetype wheels. Follow tube manufacturers recommendations for proper size and.
Use of power operated tire mounting equipment should be avoided in order not to mar or damage wire wheels.
Begin tire installation procedure by mounting only one tire and again checking on the vehicle for suspension and fender clearances. Clearances should be
checked at front wheels and rear wheels.
Do not over-pressurize to seat tire beads. Under no circumstances should 50 P.S.I.G. (40 P.S.I.G. in California) be exceeded.
Fit Wheels
Place wheels on adapters and push firmly toward the back of the adapter. When the rear of the wheel center is sitting on the back of the adapter, rock the wheel
so that the drive teeth engage completely and firmly. Do not use wheels or adapters if teeth become worn down.
Thread On Cap
Thread knock-off caps on the adapter. Markings on caps indicate proper tightening direction. “Left side” caps must be used on the left side of car and “Right side”
caps must be used on right side of car.
Tighten Caps
While car is still on jacks run the knock-off caps up tight. Two-eared and 3-eared caps must be tightened with a Dayton Wire Wheel lead hammer. Octagon,
Dome, Diamond, and OTD caps must be tighten with the appropriate wrench and lead hammer. Wrench tightening alone is not sufficient.
Test
Spin wheels by hand to make sure there is no rubbing against brake calipers. Also, rock wheel assembly to verify that the knock-off cap has seated completely in
the wheel. No looseness should be noticeable.
Retighten Caps
Lower the car and hammer the caps until there is no movement under the hardest blow of the hammer. After the car has been run 25 miles, be sure to re-check
the knock-off cap for tightness. The wheels seat themselves on the adapters after the initial run-in and knock-off caps can be tightened further. THIS IS
IMPORTANT. Knock-off caps must be very tight to prevent wear of the drive teeth. Continue to tighten knock-off caps every 100 miles for the first 500 miles.
Then check tightness every few weeks. WIRE WHEELS should always be checked for tightness of knock-off caps regularly.

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: Vairismo ()
Date: April 27, 2022 04:41PM

Going by the order listed, looks to me like 60 ft.lbs.

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 27, 2022 06:00PM

Yep Dayton spec 60 for the 7/16 lug nut it felt too light to me so I just put mine down at 75 wondering what other KH wheel owners are doing and if there is a reference somewhere. I searched here on CCF and looked through my shop manuals found zip. Someone here must know and probably good info for the FAQ

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El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
66 Corsa "JIMISH" Mid engine Turbo LS1 currently 2nd fastest Corvair in the USA
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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: April 28, 2022 07:31AM

The torque for the adapters is the same as for the steel wheels. Check with the factory service manual for a specification. I also suggest that you use never seize on the backside of the adapter where it contacts the brake drum. I have seen them rust in that area, and become difficult to remove.

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 28, 2022 03:03PM

Thank you Junkman

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: April 29, 2022 09:05AM

'65 service manual says 55-65 ft-lbs for regular wheel nut torque.

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 29, 2022 02:40PM

GM must have put out instructions somewhere the wheels & adapters are too particular..... Vairchet library ??

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El Cajon , CA
65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: April 29, 2022 02:44PM

Creampuff vert is coming out for the summer

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65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: blackspyder ()
Date: May 01, 2022 04:06PM

According to the 63 assembly manual,. The lug nuts that hold the adaptor to the drum should be torqued to 55;to 65 lbs and the knockoff to the adaptor 400lbs, which they state is the equivalent of 8 blows with lead hammer after knockoff is hand tight

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: May 01, 2022 04:51PM

Perfect Thank you , Any chance you can post images of those pages here?

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65 Corsa Yenko Clone / 65 Corsa EO Creampuff Vert
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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: May 01, 2022 07:22PM

blackspyder Wrote:
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> According to the 63 assembly manual,. The lug nuts that hold the adaptor to the drum should be torqued to 55;to 65 lbs and the knockoff to the adaptor 400lbs, which they state is the equivalent of 8 blows with lead hammer after knockoff is hand tight


This probably accounts for all the broken ears that I used to find on beat-up knock-offs.

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Re: Kelsey Hayes adapters lug nut torque?
Posted by: ROD ()
Date: May 13, 2022 09:11AM

The Creampuff vert

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