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Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: jfreez ()
Date: March 31, 2022 03:23PM

So, I picked up this car last year and want to get it close to stock.
It is a 65 Turbo convertible.
The biggest problem (of many) is it has an EM turbo engine.
I have bought a LM engine with heads and a full LM turbo with carb and manifold.

Does anybody have a list of the differences in parts from the 65 to the earlier cars?

It looks like my engine cover Tin is from a non turbo, because the fresh air duct is on the passenger side.
I believe the exhaust pipe going out of the turbo may be different.


In the not so distant future, I will be selling the EM engine with its turbo, what's the market price for one these days?

Thanks in advance for any info to help me get on the right track

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: March 31, 2022 07:04PM

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jfreeze
It looks like my engine cover Tin is from a non turbo, because the fresh air duct is on the passenger side.
I believe the exhaust pipe going out of the turbo may be different.

Early (1962 to 1964) turbo sheet metal fan shroud has fresh air outlet in normal position. IIRC, there are some cut outs for the turbo pipes on the "front" flange edge.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: March 31, 2022 07:20PM

It might be good to identify what you've got there.
The turbo has a number plate to identify what year it is.
The Bob Helt Carter YH book has good information for identifying carburetors.
The crankcase number is a good start but it doesn't necessarily identify the year. The head numbers help identify the year but again not necessarily because things get assembled in different configurations.
Your steel fan is like on a 62-63 and so is the solid pulley on the crankshaft.
Early and late exhaust pipes are different.
Distributor numbers are different through the years.
Sorry I only have things to look for rather than answers.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: RexJohnson ()
Date: March 31, 2022 08:25PM

The outlet pipe from the turbo is further to the right on a late model engine and your looks to be from an early. The collars that the 2 pipes go thru are different from early to late because of the pipe spacing. I'm betting that they adapted the standard side sheet metal to fit the early turbo exhaust. On the side shroud there should be welded on nuts to screw down the exhaust collars so I would check to see if there is but probably not.

RJ tools
Salem,Oregon

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: April 01, 2022 05:48AM

When you state EM, do you mean 62/63, or 64. There is very little difference between the 64 and 65/66.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: April 01, 2022 11:27AM

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JO
When you state EM, do you mean 62/63, or 64. There is very little difference between the 64 and 65/66.

Maybe internally, but sheet metal wise, everything is different. Exhaust wise most things are different.

The dimple in the heat shield is different, because spare tire mounting is different.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: jfreez ()
Date: April 01, 2022 01:34PM

I don't have the part numbers in front of me, but when I looked them up a while back everything pointed to it being a 63.

now that I have a proper 65 engine and turbo, I am going to have to figure out what I need to change out to get the 65 engine in and working properly.

I have access to sheet metal fab shop, so I think I can adapt the top and side shrouds to work, but its sounding like I will probably need to do some changes to the exhaust system.

I do know a guy in near me with a 65 turbo, maybe I will see if I can talk him into letting me make some templates off of his shrouds.

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: April 01, 2022 08:14PM

Are you going for 100 point show car or a driver?

If a driver, you should be able to make simple adjustments to get the existing fan shroud to work. The side shrouds have to match the body, for the perimeter seal to work, so earlies will not fit. Does the "new" engine have all the shrouds?

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: April 02, 2022 08:49AM

Be aware that there are two different exhaust outlet systems for the 65 turbo. One uses and EM turbo muffler and one uses the new larger 65/66 muffler.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: jfreez ()
Date: April 02, 2022 03:52PM

I don't have any sheet metal for the new engine.
Probably going to have to adapt as I go.
Not making a show car, but where I can make it factory correct, I will.

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: April 02, 2022 05:51PM

Where are you? Late cooling tin even the three turbo pieces are not really rare. Isn't someone near you with parts?

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: jfreez ()
Date: April 03, 2022 12:08PM

I am in central CA right in-between about 30 miles south of Modesto

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: April 03, 2022 12:29PM

You should have no trouble collecting the engine tin.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: April 03, 2022 01:00PM

viewmaster is having a fire sale and he lives in Clovis.

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: viewmaster ()
Date: April 03, 2022 04:02PM

Phil,
We have been in contact. I don't think zi have anything he is looking right now. Thank you tho.

-m

Mike
'65 '500' Sedan 110 PG
'65 Monza Sedan turbo'd 110 SU conversion
Fresno, CA

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Re: Trying to fix someone elses mistakes
Posted by: caroseiii ()
Date: April 03, 2022 05:15PM

[californiacorvairparts.com]
Jeff Williams has most of theee parts.

Note: you only need 65 parts if you are using 65 heads with 1/4” bolts. If using 66 with 3/8” bolts you should use the 66 parts.

Crawford

C.A. Rose
Metairie, LA
1962 Spyders



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