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Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: September 20, 2021 03:24PM

Are there any tricks to removing the starter from a Rampside? Does the axle need to come loose? Is it easier to drop the engine? Can it be accessed from above?

Any tips and advice are appreciated.

Knoxville TN

1962 Corvair Rampside
1963 Corvair Spyder Convertible (project)
1966 Corvair Monza Convertible

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 20, 2021 03:34PM

Remove left rear wheel

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: irfgt ()
Date: September 20, 2021 03:47PM

Disconnect negative battery cable.Jack the truck off the ground. Slide underneath. Remove wires connected to starter. Remove two bolts holding starter to differential. Lower starter to ground.

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: September 20, 2021 03:48PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Remove left rear wheel


The wheel is off and the heater hose is off. I still don't see enough clearance to lower the starter out of the car. The axle, fuel line, and transmission governor are in the way.

Knoxville TN

1962 Corvair Rampside
1963 Corvair Spyder Convertible (project)
1966 Corvair Monza Convertible

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 20, 2021 04:53PM

It comes out the side.

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 20, 2021 06:14PM

The inboard bolt throws a lot of people off. Use a medium racthet, a couple of extensions so he ratchet is forward of the starter body, and a 9/16 socket. Easy peasy.

And, no you usually can't get it from the top because the heater assembly is bolted to the underside of the cover along with other connections so you can't remove the cover.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: September 20, 2021 06:23PM

It takes holding your mouth right to find the orientation where it will slip out of there, but, it will when oriented just right.

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 20, 2021 06:57PM

Long arms! People over 6 feet have it easier.grinning smiley On cars I reach around from the passenger side to get that bolt. Sometimes those newfangled (OK 20 years ago...) Gear Ratcheting Wrenches work well.

The hard part is getting the wires off the solenoid. Several different sizes of sockets depending on what nuts were used. No way to know until you are down there. The mounting bolts are always (well, 99% always there are small head 3/8 bolts out there) 9/16" heads.

Keep rotating the starter once it is free of the bellhousing. There is a magic combination of moves to get it past the obstacles.thumbs up

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: September 24, 2021 06:17PM

Well, I tried. After much frustration and a couple of banged-up forearms, I threw in the towel and dropped the engine.

I was able to replace the starter in my late model with relative ease, but the Rampsice, with its big A-arms was just too congested to get two hands on the starter.

Once the engine was out, I was able to replace the starter in a matter of minutes.

Before I re-install the engine, I hope to devise a different way to support the heater box so I can remove the middle bed panel to allow top access to the starter and the top of the tranny.

I remember seeing pictures that someone took of their Rampside, showing how to make support brackets for the heater box, so it dies not need to be bolted to the bottom side of the bed.

If anyone has tips of making a support for the heater box, I'd be interested in hearing them.

Knoxville TN

1962 Corvair Rampside
1963 Corvair Spyder Convertible (project)
1966 Corvair Monza Convertible

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 24, 2021 06:55PM

Bracket is just a shallow channel that goes all the way across opening.





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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: RKF ()
Date: September 25, 2021 03:20AM

Perfect. Thanks Matt.

Knoxville TN

1962 Corvair Rampside
1963 Corvair Spyder Convertible (project)
1966 Corvair Monza Convertible

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: September 25, 2021 11:37AM

Here is how it was done in the Greenbrier I sold. I like this method better.

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 25, 2021 12:07PM

Here's what I made for a heater support...

But aside - removing the powertrain to get the starter off seems completely unnecessary; I wouldn't even consider that as an option. JMHO

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

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Re: Removing Starter from Rampside
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 25, 2021 08:00PM

I've changed them in parking lots and on the side of a city street (with a sidewalk). But I was younger then! winking smiley

Changed one on the same Rampside, for different owners, several years apart. I removed the odd extra starter wiring after the second one burned up. Somehow the additional wiring was engaging the starter while it was parked in gear with the handbrake set. Never seen that before on ANY vehicle with odd extra wiring. If the handbrake wasn't set it could have started and driven away!eye popping smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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