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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: August 21, 2021 08:48PM

Keep it up.

I'm old enough to have worked on some unmolested cars. But not many!

People bought belts at GM dealers?grinning smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: August 21, 2021 08:57PM

As Matt said, I always thought the Flap-Style plug boots were intended to be tucked inside, so that air-pressure held them closed.
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YES!
Please keep us posted.Actively watching this thread progress. thumbs up

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border, I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: August 21, 2021 11:53PM

Love the thread! Just waiting for an image of the Fisher Trim tag.. LOL

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp
65 Rupp Monza Jr
68 Rupp Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: August 22, 2021 04:38AM

No such thing as a Corvair that isn't interesting for me.

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 22, 2021 08:13AM

I've had a couple of requests to see a photo of the Canadian body tag so...
Here you go:

Style 10539
1 = Chevrolet
0 = Corvair
5 = Monza
39 = Pillar-less "hardtop" 4-door sedan

2-6-1: I'm GUESSING this is the production date, February 6th, 1st shift. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Canadian-experts!

Paint S = Sierra Tan
Trim 706 = Medium Saddle bucket seats

Options: B70 = Padded Dash, M35 = Automatic transmission

I wonder what the meaning of the black, hand-painted "Z" or "2" might mean? Paint daubs usually mean some necessary activity has been done.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 22, 2021 09:22AM

Someone suggested the fan belt was not "GM" because it also had a Dayco part number however, that's not the case because the only part number on the belt is the GM part number, next to the GM logo.

Numbers following the printed "Dayco" are simply the belt dimensions: .380" x 56.00"

It is a little unusual to see OEM vendor names, other than the various AC brands, printed on GM parts.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: August 22, 2021 05:19PM

You were close, but not 100%..updates inculded below.

Style 10539
1 = Chevrolet
05 = Corvair Monza
39 = Pillar-less "hardtop" 4-door sedan

2-6-1: Built June 1st 1965 on 2nd Shift (Shift/Month/Day)

Body 268418 = The 8,418 Corvair body assembled at Oshawa Assembly plant for 1965 model year.

Paint S = Sierra Tan
Trim 706 = Medium Saddle bucket seats

Options:
B70 = Padded Dash,
M35 = Automatic transmission

In regards to the Z or 2, no idea as I have never seen that before, but as it is hand written, it could mean nearly anything or nothing at all.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp
65 Rupp Monza Jr
68 Rupp Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: August 22, 2021 05:23PM

There were only 10,732 Canadian Corvair produced for domestic Canadian use, only an estimated 1,826 were Monza Sedans.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp
65 Rupp Monza Jr
68 Rupp Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: sweet66monza ()
Date: August 22, 2021 05:24PM

I am enjoying the updates too! Makes me want to get working on my canadian 66!

On a side note, is your alternator fan zinc (my 66 is), or is it painted black like the american built cars? Cant quite tell 100% from the pics

Cody Hurley
North Idaho (Post Falls)
66 Monza convertible 140/PG, loaded with factory options
66 Corsa turbo coupe, 3rd owner fully documented [corvaircenter.com]
66 Canadian monza coupe 110/pg project car (no picture yet)
65 Monza coupe daily driver 110/4
Also 2 Ford f350 IDI diesels, three Jeep FC 170s, 1966 Jeep CJ5A, two 1954 International R-150 pickups, 5 Rokon Trailbreakers, Chrysler Snorunner, and thousands of parts


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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: August 22, 2021 05:37PM

I wanted to clarify my post as I forgot to specify the year...so there is no confusion later.

There were only 10,732 Canadian Corvair produced in 1965 for domestic Canadian use, only an estimated 1,826 were 1965 Monza Sedans.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Rides
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp
65 Rupp Monza Jr
68 Rupp Chevy Jr

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: August 22, 2021 05:56PM

Keep up the post Craig, very interesting. Yes the Corvair 5.5" wide rim was relatively wide then. Only the big Chevy station wagons got a wider rim, if I remember correctly. I was always amazed by the skinny tires 63 Corvettes ran on - 6.70 x 15"!!!

That Chevy II wheel must have been 64-67 since it's a 5 lug. The 62-63 Chevy II's were all 4 lug, even the optional 14" wheel - a real oddball wheel to find!

The 4 lug 14" Chevy II wheel was mandatory on 63 Super Sport cars since they came with a the 63 14" Super Sport hubcap from the bigger cars.

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: Vairismo ()
Date: August 22, 2021 09:20PM

I have a set of 14" kidney bean slotted ralley wheels that came off of a '68 Chevrolet. Not sure anymore which model, but it was the full size car in the day.
They are the narrowest rally wheels I've ever seen, but don't have a measurement for them. Probably 5" but might be even less wide. Just very different.
Maybe not unusual back in the day, and no one would seek them because 'wider is better' had / has become the norm of desirability.

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 22, 2021 10:11PM

66vairman wrote: That Chevy II wheel must have been 64-67 since it's a 5 lug.

Craig replies: How right you are! The wheel has a K3 (October 1963) date code.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: REM654DPG ()
Date: August 23, 2021 10:35PM

Craig, I think this is a great post and am enjoying the updates too. I have the close cousin to your car but it was born in America. It's not as clean or origonal as yours but it does still have all origonal interior and it is a rust free car.

You'll have to de-cifer the body tag for me as I'm not sure of the production date but do know it was first sold on May 12 1965 for what that's worth.

Thanks again Craig,

Regan Metcalf
Portland, OR

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: August 23, 2021 11:02PM

REM654DPG Wrote:
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> You'll have to de-cifer the body tag for me as I'm not sure of the production date but do know it was first sold on May 12 1965 for what that's worth.
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From the FAQs: A/C, P/G, rear antenna, convenience group(2sp wipers, washers, day / night rear view mirror), deluxe seat belts

Think 04D is the 4th week of April



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/23/2021 11:06PM by RobertC.

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: August 15, 2022 08:08AM

Long time since my last update, sorry. Over the last nine months I moved out of my old shop (major effort) and I've been thrashing on my '65 Mustang restomod so very little time for my waterless wonders.

So, what about the '65 Canadian Corvair? It needed carpets and rear seat foundation cardboard and I've had time to get the carpet done.

The Monza's floors, well, floored me! I've never seen such a nice floor; WOW!

Also found the Canadian version of a build sheet under the "like new" rear seat.

Both were delightful discoveries.smiling bouncing smiley

The rear floor, while also in amazing condition shows a pattern of orange spray I haven't seen before. I'm guessing it was spray glue but why only on the rear floor?

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: August 15, 2022 12:48PM

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cnicol
The rear floor, while also in amazing condition shows a pattern of orange spray I haven't seen before. I'm guessing it was spray glue but why only on the rear floor?



Monday?
Friday?
Lazy?
Disgruntled?
Union Worker?

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: CorvairHaven ()
Date: August 16, 2022 05:57PM

American Mel Wrote:
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cnicol
> The rear floor, while also in amazing condition shows a pattern of orange spray I haven't seen before. I'm guessing it was spray glue but why only on the rear floor?
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> Monday?
> Friday?
> Lazy?
> Disgruntled?
> Union Worker?



Just remember that Corvairs were made with Union labor.
To include that with the rest of your list is kind of offensive to all of us who willingly belong to unions.

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: jimc ()
Date: August 17, 2022 07:32AM

Nice find Craig,

My ‘65 Corsa was originally same Sierra gold metallic but with fawn interior until I changed the exterior paint color only, a complete glass, trim, hood and doors removal repaint.

Glad to see another Vair saved to be treasured.

I have a pair of LM rear brake linings (aftermarket) if you need them.

Jimc
1965 Corsa Coupe, two owner history


HACOA Member
CORSA 2017 Concours Senior Gold Award
AACA 2015 Award

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Re: About my "new" Canadian '65 Monza...
Posted by: Paulsgt ()
Date: August 17, 2022 08:06AM

Keep the updates coming Craig!
It's a beautiful car.

Enjoy the Corvair!

Paul Sergeant
CORSA Central Division Director / CORSA Treasurer
Lee's Summit, MO
CORSA since 1975
Member – HACOA, Corvair Minnesota, CORSA, Little Indians, POCI


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