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Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 08:46AM

Does anyone have a picture of the inside of an automatic Tranny (1963 Monza w/a 1965 motor)where the cable fits into???

I’ve tried to put the cable in a half a dozen times and it still stuck in drive. I think I need to drop the pan.
Please send pics to email ferrisbr@aol.com
Thanks!!!

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: May 28, 2021 09:10AM

Instructions and pic are in the Shop Manual.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/28/2021 09:10AM by RobertC.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: May 28, 2021 04:22PM

Do you have both the throttle rods disconnected from the TV lever? That's the only way it will rotate CCW far enough to admit the shift cable.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: May 28, 2021 04:30PM

davemotohead recently sent me these pictures to help with reinstalling the TV lever as I was also confused...hope it helps.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 06:16PM

My 1963 corvair shop manual does not show any of this.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 06:17PM

Yes!!! Still won't come out of drive.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 06:19PM

I still can't see the ball on the end of the cable.

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Automatic tranny cable install 1963 monza
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 06:00PM

Car won't come out of drive and won't go into reverse after I installed the cable at least 6 times.

H E L P!!!

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: May 28, 2021 06:42PM

Not your eye's, Ferris, I don't see the ball or cable in Phil's pictures either.

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Ferris
My 1963 corvair shop manual does not show any of this.

The 1963 Corvair shop manual is a supplement, aka 1962/1963 Supplement. You need the 1961 Shop Manual for most information that did not change between 1961 and 1963.

In case you do not have a 61 manual, look here:

[www.corvair.org]


4. Shift range selecter to "D" (drive), then the cable
upper clip in the toe-pan and secure the cable in
the multiple clip at the base of the toe-pan. Be sure
the rubber protector is installed on the clip to
protect the cable sheath.
5. Secure the cable with the three clips provided in
the tunnel area. Bow cable towards center line of
vehicle to guide cable through hole in engine front
support.
6. Install "0" ring seal (fig. 6E-6) on cable, Lubricate
"0" ring lightly with Lubriplate.

7. With throttle rods disconnected from the throttle
valve (TV) lever on the transmission, rotate the
TV lever its full limit counterclockwise and insert
cable ball into the slot of the manual valve lever.
8. Fully seat "0" ring and secure installation by installing
cap screw and lockwasher.
9. Correctness of installation is easily checked. Once
fully tightened, exert a slight hand pressure in the
in the notched arm of the TV lever is below the
transmission oil pan rail (fig. 6E-7). If hole is
above pan rail, cable installation is faulty and must
be re-checked.


Yes, no picture of the cable ball inside the transmission in the shop manual either. Try it several more times following the directions exactly and see if it finally fits. I have had to do them several times on occasion myself.thumbs up

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 06:48PM

I did exactly what you said about six times and still no luck.

Do I need to drop the transmission pan to find out why the cable is not inserting properly???

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: May 28, 2021 07:03PM

I would at this point. I'll bet that you figure out that you were doing something wrong when you can see it.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 141 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: May 28, 2021 07:13PM

My pictures only demonstrate the correct TV lever install and the post says that.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: May 28, 2021 07:15PM

Thanks!!!!

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: May 28, 2021 09:12PM

ferrisbr@aol.com Wrote:
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> My 1963 corvair shop manual does not show any of this.


You need the “main” manuals: 1961 or 1965.

Supplements like 1963 only cover differences pertinent to that year.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: May 28, 2021 09:25PM

Did you follow this step?

"7. With throttle rods disconnected from the throttle
valve (TV) lever on the transmission
, rotate the
TV lever its full limit counterclockwise and insert
cable ball into the slot of the manual valve lever.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
65 Canadian Monza 4dr 110/PG 40k
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: May 29, 2021 01:32AM

cnicol Wrote:
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> Did you follow this step?
>
> "7. With throttle rods disconnected from the throttle
> valve (TV) lever on the transmission
, rotate the
> TV lever its full limit counterclockwise and insert
> cable ball into the slot of the manual valve lever.

To elaborate on Craig's post: Feeble memory, been decades...

Need to hold the TV lever as you insert the cable. TV lever vertical / almost vertical???

When inserting cable, you need to angle it slightly downward to "clear" - completely insert cable.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: May 29, 2021 02:10AM

When I was setting up cable in my LM More Door, I too could not get it right. Here is how I confirmed proper assembly after doing manual procedure.

I held the cable flange against transmission and a friend selected reverse on the shift lever on the instrument panel. I then tried to pull cable out of transmission. It did not pull out. Proper connection to lever confirmed

Al
Georgia



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/29/2021 02:11AM by Lane66m.

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: May 29, 2021 05:23AM

The dash selector needs to be in Drive so the cable sticks out far enough. I think Low position works too.
The Service Manual also shows what the accelerator lever position looks like when the cable is correctly or incorrectly installed.
They can be sort of a bugger sometimes but it seems like the more I do it the luckier I get.

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: May 29, 2021 04:29PM

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Robert
Need to hold the TV lever as you insert the cable.

And by hold it means with pressure against its internal stop. Just getting it close to its CCW position is failure. And of course hold the cable flange tight against the transmission while you do one of these:
A. Have someone test as Lane says above
B. Insert the bolt to hold the flange tight to the transmission.
C. Turn the TV lever full CW. You should not be able to pull the cable out at this point. IIRC

If you let go of the cable and the TV lever at the same time, the ball does not stay in place.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Automatic Tranny cable
Posted by: ferrisbr@aol.com ()
Date: June 13, 2021 03:46PM

As of today, Sunday the 13th, Drive works, no neutral and it jumps in reverse when I push the gas pedal to the floor only !!!!

Any thoughts are appreciated !!! Thanks!!!

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