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Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: January 02, 2021 05:33AM

Any recommendations for a new clutch install plus the bearings in West Palm Beach for my 65 140hp Corsa?

Also, should I go stock or spend an extra $100 for a Performance Clutch from Clarks? Kevlartuff?

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 02, 2021 07:18AM

I don't know about a shop but I do know the stock clutches are very durable. If I was recommending a change to the clutch I would work on lightening it.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: January 02, 2021 10:13AM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> I don't know about a shop but I do know the stock clutches are very durable. If I was recommending a change to the clutch I would work on lightening it.

Yes the stock type clutch is durable. "Kevlar" compounds vary a lot. I've had too many negative experiences with "Kevlar" products and gave up on them.

If you are "hard" on a clutch I would suggest buying Clark's rebuilt pressure plate as they seem to be the ONLY rebuilder that installs a new PP diaphragm spring!! If the used PP diaphragm tension tests good it CAN be re-used.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: FLSteve ()
Date: January 02, 2021 07:43PM

Mike about the only person that is doing anything Corvair all the time is a guy in central Fl. I forget his name but I'll look or check Corsa magazine. Good luck

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: January 03, 2021 04:55AM

Steve, this guy:

Eddie Meadows

eddiem62@bellsouth.net
(407) 366-0974

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: FLSteve ()
Date: January 03, 2021 05:40AM

Yes... Ed G. Used him and was very happy.... if I did not do the work myself, I would use him.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: January 04, 2021 05:29AM

Reached out, has responded to questions but has not said he would do the work. What is a fair price for a this work (new clutch, bearings, etc.).

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: FLSteve ()
Date: January 04, 2021 07:43PM

I would say in the $400-600 range.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: January 04, 2021 08:15PM

FLSteve Wrote:
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> I would say in the $400-600 range.

Do not know if I am reading Clark’s catalog correctlyp, but it looks like all the parts are $700. - maybe more

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: January 05, 2021 12:30AM

Should add that Clark's mentions that the flywheel, disc and pressure plate should be balanced together.

I agree - I always had the parts balanced when I had the clutch replaced.

That is another cost.

Plus finding a competent balancer. Maybe the mechanic knows of one that he uses.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: January 05, 2021 07:38AM

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FLSteve
I would say in the $400-600 range.

Labor only.

How many hours to do the job? Multiply by shop rate. Of course it will take longer once other issues or cleaning is involved.eye popping smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: scooperman ()
Date: January 08, 2021 07:33AM

A couple years ago I had my F-250 trans replaced by Vic's transmission in Lake Park, and the owner mentioned he knows Corvairs and has PG repair stuff in stock.

In WPB, I go to Ernie Bello Motorsports Tire for tires, brakes, suspension. Known Ernie since the 70s. He knows everybody, would be a good resource to ask about where to have transmission work done.

Bayles Tuning in WPB, I went there to get an estimate for some work on the F-250. Owner mentioned he takes care of 3 regulars who drive Corvairs. Rough looking shop but he seems busy.

Road n' Race Tune in Riviera Beach. Peter Shadowen's (multiple SCCA GTL national champ) shop. Good shop, also could dyno tune your car.

Munson's Auto in Mangonia Park.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: January 08, 2021 08:30AM

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: January 08, 2021 06:21PM

Scooperman, I know Ernie and Peter well. I buy all my tires from Ernie and he has worked on my Corvair. Peter's a great guy and I had him work on my BMWs.

I'll check with Vics.

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: January 08, 2021 06:29PM

If a shop wants me to order parts, what do I need specifically need besides

throw-out bearing; pilot bushing, input shaft seal and split ring, pressure plate.

and clutch disc?

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 08, 2021 06:40PM

You shouldn't need the split ring. I guess it wouldn't hurt since it doesn't cost much.
You might consider having them replace the rear main seal while they have it apart. That would require a seal, bell housing gasket and pan gasket.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Early Guy ()
Date: January 08, 2021 08:13PM

I strongly recommend a reputably rebuilt resurfaced (bolted flywheel) You dont want to take it apart again for a rattling flywheel.


Ray Johnson Villa Park IL 63 Spyder Conv. 140 EFI

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: January 09, 2021 06:12AM

RobertC Wrote:
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> Should add that Clark's mentions that the flywheel, disc and pressure plate should be balanced together.



I too see that's their recommendation. I wonder about the logic, since the disc orientation to the flywheel and pressure plate changes every time you step on the pedal.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: January 09, 2021 10:16AM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> RobertC Wrote:
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> > Should add that Clark's mentions that the flywheel, disc and pressure plate should be balanced together.

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> I too see that's their recommendation. I wonder about the logic, since the disc orientation to the flywheel and pressure plate changes every time you step on the pedal.

Agreed, not to mention you have to have the clutch disk properly centered or it will invalidate the balancing process.

Also DO mark the PP orientation to the flywheel to maintain same orientation when it was balanced during installation into the vehicle.

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Re: Clutch install mechanic/shop in West Palm Beach
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: January 09, 2021 10:37AM

66vairman Wrote:
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> Wagon Master Wrote:
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> > RobertC Wrote:
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > Should add that Clark's mentions that the flywheel, disc and pressure plate should be balanced together.

> >
> >
> > I too see that's their recommendation. I wonder about the logic, since the disc orientation to the flywheel and pressure plate changes every time you step on the pedal.
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> Agreed, not to mention you have to have the clutch disk properly centered or it will invalidate the balancing process.

Yeah, the last time (decades ago) I had the flywheel / pressure plate balanced, the guy "complained" that I did not provide the clutch disc. With your comments, I would have thought that he would balance the clutch disc by itself?

He did shave the heads of the bolts a little - to get matching weights, I assume.

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> Also DO mark the PP orientation to the flywheel to maintain same orientation when it was balanced during installation into the vehicle.

Wouldn't a good balancer already have done that?

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