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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: October 15, 2020 05:01PM

Look for oil pressure switch on pass side of engine between 1 and 3 cylinders
just below oil return tubes.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 15, 2020 05:27PM

Always good to hear from a man who's "seen it all!"

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 15, 2020 06:13PM

Thanks!

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: October 15, 2020 06:32PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Always good to hear from a man who's "seen it all!"

Steve sez: Matt I am millions of miles from that!! ggg

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: October 16, 2020 08:45PM

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Foiled
I need to learn to re-key ignition tumblers and locks. This vehicle had no key and it'd be kind of neat to run the same key as other old GM vehicles here in the shed if the key profile is similar.

Ah, but you need a key that matches the tumblers to turn the cylinder CCW to remove it in order to change the tumbler to match another car! Catch - 22.

If you think the doors and glove box locks match the ignition lock, I can make a key for you from the code on the door locks (have to remove the door panel and take lock out to see code, of course, you need to locks out to re-key them anyway).

Joel is right, 1935 to 1966 all GM uses the B-10 / B-11 keyway. The A, B, etc. key blanks started in 1967 across all GM.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 16, 2020 09:42PM

The idea of having all of my Corvairs use the same two keys is really appealing.
I like the thought of only keeping track of one set of keys. thumbs up
BUT, then there is a little nagging thought that continues to pop up in the back of my mind . . . . . . .
"Do I really want to re-change all the locks when/if I sell this car?" eye rolling smiley

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
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'03 Honda Del Sol
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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Date: October 17, 2020 04:52AM

Might check with other GM car or "key collectors" nearby.

I've got severa rings of this style GM keys and they have really come in handy many times...



Here's about 30 of 'em. Some guys have hundreds!


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1966 Corsa Turbo coupe ~ ~ 1966 Corsa 140 Coupe ~ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 Convertible Sierra Tan/Fawn ~ 1964 Monza Spyder Convertible ~ 1960 Monza Ermine White/Red PG ++ ~ 1965 Monza 140/4 CoupeEvening Orchid w/ ivory/black interior ~ 1962 Monza Wagon 102/4 ~ 1963 Rampside/Scamper ~ 1963 Red/Greenbrier ~ 1969 Ultra Van #468

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 17, 2020 07:44AM

Thanks for the key lore, guys. Looks like there are options. 'One-keying' is not a difficult issue for old VWs too.

Now, the last time I swapped out a GM ignition tumbler/switch it was made easy as the tumbler was left in the unlocked position, or at least I seem to recall that, so the 'stick a pin in there and get the thing out' maneuver was straightforward.

Since I can't run the motor w/o an oil filter I attacked the exhaust system to get it out of the way of the passenger side of the engine to plumb in a mechanical oil pressure gauge. So used to rusted-up messes and broken studs, not used to things going easy in that regard! Just needed a 24-hour slow drip of ATF/acetone to come loose. Apart from the muffler which looked like a post-explosion water heater, the pipe itself is intact and rings like a bell, so I will weld on a new short muffler and call it decent.

A lifter question: Has anyone, provided the lifter faces are not cupped-out, tried removing, taking apart and cleaning their lifters? I see there is a variance in quality to replacements. probably this will be academic as the lifters and cam too will be worn, but...

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 17, 2020 08:02AM

Cleaning lifters is age old on many engines. Vairs almost always pump up on their own after the car is driven.... patience.

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: October 17, 2020 10:35AM

There is an easier place for oil pressure sender/gauge. Look next to generator pulley near fuel pump. You will see pipe plug. Remove the plug and place sending unit or mechanical gauge if you want to watch pressure now. Install plug at the side of the case under the cylinders never to be used again.

Many senders failed quickly on 60-61 engines due to high heat near cylinders and exh. We all changed the position when replacing the switch.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 17, 2020 12:32PM

You rule, Steve. A thousand thanks.

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 21, 2020 12:49PM

Update; New oil filter showed so new oil [Mobil Delvac 15w-40, decent zinc PPM and an elevated dispersant package, being a Diesel oil] finally, and the mechanical gauge I plumbed in [thank you, Steve] shows 40 PSI at a quickish idle. Used a good-sized tubing diameter to the gauge so the needle reacts fast, I can see it bouncing off the OP regulator. Still some smoke, hope it's just ATF that oozed into the exhaust. Doesn't smell like oil, smells...weird.

The glasspack sounds decent, not too loud at all, a reasonably pleasant tone for a 6 into 1. Still pretty clackety in the valves but it has not run continuously more than 5 or so minutes at a time. Don't want to try an adjustment until I get some new VC gaskets.
Pretty sure both the fan and idler pulley bearings are on their last legs.
I'm such a cheapskate installing Zerks seems like a workable last-ditch dirtbag effort, or not.

Thing starts just like *that* [snaps fingers]

Since not one of the tires holds air for more than 10 minutes I'm looking around at options. Found a set of Westlake 185/70R13 on Amazon [!] for 46 clams apiece shipped. Don't know from Westlake but the size seems right. They're Italian, so am I so maybe the Dago tires are worth a gamble. I'll wait on those until there is, y'know, a brake system beyond the park brake, which does work.

Frank DuVal is making a new set of keys [thank you, Frank] as I found the key code in the scraps of the original owners manual. Then the points can run on the proper resistance wire and not burn out fast, plus key start, won't that be novel.

Little by little...

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: October 21, 2020 01:20PM

The engine needs to run for half hour or more to get lifters pumped up after sitting all this time. Resist the temptation to adj rockers to quiet rocker arm noise. Leave the rocker covers in place for now.

NO grease fittings will work for fan and idler pulley bearings. You simply replace. The exercise on fan bearing actually is good because if the engine turns out nice then removing the fan shroud and cleaning the fins around cylinders and heads will remove the debris from sitting and the engine will run cool. Replace the fan bearing during this operation. Idler pulley bearing is easy anytime.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 21, 2020 03:54PM

Check. Plus unless I miss my guess the fan housing gasket is leaking as I'm getting some fried-oil smoke out the rear ducts.

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 21, 2020 04:12PM

Davemotohead has a GREAT video on changing the fan-bearing!

> > > How to change a Corvair fan-bearing < < <

Dave has an entire Youtube Channel of many Corvair Repair Videos.
You need to check them out if you plan on doing your own repairs.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 22, 2020 07:55AM

Ha! I was just watching the idler and fan-bearing how-tos last night. Dude's got the skills.

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: junkman ()
Date: October 22, 2020 11:01AM

I watched a video on brain surgery, and my first brain surgery was a success. It was on Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes. Vera was very proud of me. That was 52 years ago.

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 22, 2020 12:38PM

Bet that took its time- Charlton's head was pretty thick back in the day.

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: October 22, 2020 10:29PM

When you pull the cover off you'll want to de-flash the heads for best cooling.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 113 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: About to tear into a virgin '60 engine
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 23, 2020 08:33AM

I'll say. From below, this looks like a dirt chunk in the vague shape of a Corvair engine.

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