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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: autocomman ()
Date: October 09, 2020 10:19AM

Agreed with not popping am led bulb in a headlight housing. But there are sealed beam type LED headlights. They don't look great when they are in a classic car, but the beam cutoff is correct and they are absolutely fantastic. If you adjust em properly there is no blinding. It's a properly made headlight

But the esthetic of them is all wrong in a classic.

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: October 09, 2020 10:24AM

I've looked at H4 LED bulbs an so far I have to agree, their light pattern is poor. They just don't work with the H4 housing reflector and lens geometry.

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: October 10, 2020 07:16AM

I did did not look closely enough at the description and got the larger 7" bulbs. so don't get the Sylvania H6024 XtraVision Halogen Sealed Beams. Looks like the Sylvania H5006 XtraVision Halogen Sealed Beams is the correct 5 11/16" size. they will be in soon and I will report back.

Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: artinva ()
Date: October 10, 2020 10:19AM

Not cheap, but they look like they're well done and should have a good pattern.

[www.headlightexperts.com]

I don't have experience with them.

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 10, 2020 11:00AM

X1,000,000 on aiming, makes an enormous difference.
Clean terminals and grounds also key, along with not overdriving your headlights...slow down a bit. Both my dailies still run 6V systems.

I run old-style sealed beams on a '64 Galaxie and though I'm an Old, ran nonstop between SW TX and SoDak from sundown to sunup and they threw good beams, well enough to see bunnies and possums [and avoid 'em].

The depth of my loathing for LED headlights knows no bottom.
On an old car they have that dead-eyed Little Orphan Annie look that's,,,chilling.



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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: October 10, 2020 02:17PM

If you want to know more about upgrading your lighting, Take some time and read through this information: [www.danielsternlighting.com]

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: October 10, 2020 07:28PM

That Stern page is WAY out of date.
Half of what he claims is NOT based in fact.

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'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: idiyaught ()
Date: October 11, 2020 07:40AM

artinva Wrote:
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> Not cheap, but they look like they're well done and should have a good pattern.
>
> [www.headlightexperts.com]
>
> I don't have experience with them.

Just searched reviews, lots of bad ones. Product doesn't fit and once opened you own them

John Oostdyk
Thornhill, Ont
63 Rampy
65 Greenbrier
64 Convertible

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: WhenIm64 ()
Date: October 11, 2020 08:09AM

Seth wrote:

If you want to know more about upgrading your lighting, Take some time and read through this information: [www.danielsternlighting.com]


Then AmMel wrote:

That Stern page is WAY out of date. Half of what he claims is NOT based in fact.


I now write:

Yeah, but I liked him in Breaking Away and Home Alone.

<grin>

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: FoiledAgain ()
Date: October 11, 2020 08:20AM

Or in Get Crazy.

"It's Electric Larry."

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 12, 2020 04:58PM

66vairman Wrote:
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> doug6423 Wrote:
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> > If you're looking for really bright and want to risk it... In my German cars I used unsealed Hella halogens and would swap the stock bulbs for 80/100 bulbs. I've yet to see anything light the night up like those did.
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> Just me but I thought the Cibie had a better light pattern per watt. Problem is trying to find Cibie lamp housings in the U.S. for Hella prices.



I have a couple Cibie housings I am not going to use, if anyone is interested.

Al
Georgia

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 16, 2020 04:24AM

Sale pending of Cibie lights to a forum member.

Al
Georgia

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: oldqmguy ()
Date: October 16, 2020 10:43AM

I know that there has been a lot of talk about using LED (Light Emitting Diode) "bulbs" for Headlights. Most of it has been negative, based on trying to put LED's into housings designed for Incandescent or Halogen type bulbs!

Because the LED Assembly (bulb) does not emit light in the same manner as Incandescent or Halogen type bulbs these just don't work! No matter how BIG your hammer is, you just can't make this "square peg" fit into the current "round hole!" drinking smiley

I have been looking into this for several years, trying to find 'someone' who would go "from the ground up" and design a Headlight assembly with the lens, mirrors, and cutoffs designed for the LED type 'bulb' and I have found a place that says they have done this. confused smiley

They have a complete line of 7" and 5.75" LED Headlights available for many older cars. I have not purchased these yet, but it is on my short list!

Please check out www.vintagecarleds.com and see what you think.

They have a good on-line catalog and show pictures of what each light looks like compared to the non-LED light.

I have no stake in this company, but would like your opinions on there Corvair specific LED Headlights. eye rolling smiley

Thanks!

Dale cool smiley

Dale E. Smiley CPBE
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Avon, Indiana
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1967 4-Door Monza PG!

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 16, 2020 10:57AM

Remeber my reports! The LED Element MUST have a 180 degree LOW beam!! Not 270 or 360!!

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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: October 16, 2020 11:05AM

There is no easy way to do this. The only ones I personally like are the Harley Davidson Day Maker Chinese Knock Offs. They have several built in projector lenses. I have tried some from Amazon , because its so easy to return with Prime. These provide a good light pattern and reach. I did this by hand holding them. The big issue is the massive heat sink on the rear. I bought a big hole saw and some used cups. The reason its not complete is that I have been fighting a weird brake pulling problem. That will be corrected before any more mods are done. Also, I have a life other than Corvair and some other things are more fun or important than wrenching all the time.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Seal Beams Replacements
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: October 16, 2020 11:15AM

Those look interesting for sure but you are right about the price. I was interested to see they have some 6V options. My Dad has 1935 Standard Coupe and a 1936 one and half Ton Truck both of witch have horrible lights. I sent him the link to see if he thought they might be an option.



Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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Re: 6volt - 7" Seal Beams Replacements LED
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 16, 2020 12:50PM

Here you go Sam!

[www.octanelighting.com]



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Re: 6volt - 7" Seal Beams Replacements LED
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: October 16, 2020 01:38PM

I don't think anything will be plug a play as the bulb that this vintage Chevy uses looks more like a 1157 and has a similar socket. it is also not a sealed beam style light. There is a lot of room to have some type of adaptor but the reflector would need to modified quite a bit. We shall see. Price is better, Thanks Matt

This is the stock bulb. Mazda #1000


Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe





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Re: 6volt - 7" Seal Beams Replacements LED
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 16, 2020 02:29PM

Sam, you replace the whole glass headlight... You don't just replace the bulb or the beam pattern will be unuseable usually. It's called "scatter"!

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Re: 6volt - 7" Seal Beams Replacements LED
Posted by: SpyderMan ()
Date: October 16, 2020 07:03PM

Yea that is just not possible and keep a stock look. The factory lens is 9 or ten inches so the little light would look goofy. Hopefully we will find a solution that can look stock and put out a bit more light.

Sam Russell
Durham NC
1962 Monza Wagon Ted Brown EFI Gen II
1964 Spyder coupe


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