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Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: September 15, 2020 11:37AM

What are the essential modifications in maintenance to make to a Corvair when putting it in planned long term storage? I am anticipating that in the next month a situation could come up that will require me to store the car for up to a year.

Alternatively, does anyone have horror (or heavenly!) stories regarding loaning their car to a friend as a caretaker for it until they need it again?

Thank you. I could make the "Asking For a Friend" disclaimer, but...I'm not.

____________________________________________

Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA, USA (Seriously! It's the USA out here!)
MEMBER: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, Vintage CORSA, Sfba CORSA, and the San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club.
THEN:
1965 Monza 110, Canary Yellow
1965 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red
1966 Monza 110, Purple
1967 Monza 140, Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW:
1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Blue; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 15, 2020 11:58AM

Cental Calif.? Put it on jackstands Disconnect the battery.. That's it for inside storage...IMO

Loaning? Don't do it.... too much risk for both parties.. Store it.

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 15, 2020 12:41PM

Drive until there's no ethanol fuel in the tank and replace with non-ethanol, then add "Sta-bil" to the fuel and drive a bit to circulate treated fuel. Change oil. Park inside and disconnect battery.

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: September 15, 2020 12:57PM

In addition to up on stands to keep suspension and tires alive figure out the best rodent repellant for whatever lives around you. Inside car/exh outlet/engine bay etc. I had a fellow one time place the four jack stands in pans and then add oil to the pans so mice couldn't just climb the stands. but they jump a bit too.

Oh vac out car well so no food crumbs etc are inside.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 15, 2020 01:10PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Cental Calif.? Put it on jackstands Disconnect the battery.. That's it for inside storage...IMO
>
> Loaning? Don't do it.... too much risk for both parties.. Store it.


X2 ! ! !

If you can not store it, SELL IT, before ever loaning it!

I left a car with my brother once, my (responsible, mid-20's)nephew used it and "it died while sitting at a stop light". eye rolling smiley
When I questioned him about it, to try and diagnose the problem, all I could get out of him was, "I don't know.", or "I don't remember." angry smiley
After trying numerous things to get it started, I finally did a compression check.
100
10
0
0
Timing hadn't slipped, and valves were not bent.
And NO, neither my brother, nor his son has ever offered to pay for the damages. hot smiley

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: September 15, 2020 01:28PM

No loaning! Never goes well unless you are out to end a friendship permanently.

The minimum I would do in Arizona to store for a year is run it out of fuel, remove the battery and park it under cover if at all possible.

If you can put it on blocks and change the brake fluid that is always good. Rodent protection as required.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: September 15, 2020 01:41PM

I would drain the fuel and run it until the carbs were empty. Jack and support from under the suspension is best so the suspension is not hanging or even leaving sitting on tires (might flat spot) better than hanging. Disconnect battery. Squirting a little light oil made for engine storage into the cylinders can not hurt. Make sure car is clean so as not to attract rodents or bugs. inside storage is best. If it must be outside storage use a high quality cloth fitted car cover that is well tied down (DO NOT use any plastic tarp or material) and park the car on a hard surface like concrete or asphalt not dirt or grass. If you are concerned about rodents getting into the car or engine, having all the normal engine to body seals intact and thermostat doors closed will pretty much keep them out. Any openings in the body (rocker panel drains for example) could be blocked by some 1/4' or so wire mesh material.

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Avid Corvair hobbiest since 1984.
I have personally performed ground up restoration on over 20 Corvairs.
I currently work full time at restoring and repairing Corvairs.
Located in the Atlanta Georgia area.
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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: September 15, 2020 01:52PM

[www.carbag.com]

IF you are storing the car inside, consider buying a Car Jacket.
It is essentially a big Sleeping Bag for your car and uses Desiccant bags to help keep moisture in check.
I have been using one for my Prowler for a few years now and have had good success with this method.
It usually gets put up when we first get snow and it does not come back out until the Spring rains have done a good job of rinsing the salt off of the roads.
Last winter I also used a battery maintainer enclosed in the bag with the car and there were no adverse effects after six month's of storage.

1962 95 F.C. Van
1965 Monza Coupe
1965 Monza Convertible
Westminster, Maryland

MID ENG enthusiast &
prior Kelmark owner.

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: September 15, 2020 02:11PM

Thank you all, these are great tips. Some I hadn't even considered. As a "Covid Surprise" (They just keep on coming) I will be moving. . . somewhere . . . by the end of the year. 98% likely outside of California. We are not selling our house, so the plan is to leave the car behind and come back for it in the Spring/Summer. But one never knows, do they? The car will therefore be in the garage until that time. I will eventually have to learn how to store it for the winter in our new home, but in this case I just need to keep it safe from mice and spiders. The hope is to drive it at least partially to the new place when the time comes. As I have stated many times before, I am determined *not* to sell it. I love these cars in general, and this one in particular because I have spent more time on it as a "project" than any other Corvair I have owned. Plus, you know, my little girl thinks its keen.

The last time I left California, in 2012, I left my 65 Monza with a friend. He was good to it, but couldn't keep it forever, so I eventually sold it. Not a trauma I want to repeat.

____________________________________________

Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA, USA (Seriously! It's the USA out here!)
MEMBER: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, Vintage CORSA, Sfba CORSA, and the San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club.
THEN:
1965 Monza 110, Canary Yellow
1965 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red
1966 Monza 110, Purple
1967 Monza 140, Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW:
1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Blue; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 15, 2020 04:28PM

Put a Battery Minder on the battery and it will be hot years later. Even if a disconnected battery lives 6 months it will less capacity and life.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 113 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: September 15, 2020 04:59PM

Regarding the technique of removing the ethanol gas and replacing it with something else. Is there a product that will stabilize ethanol gas? There really isn't anywhere nearby that sells non-ethanol gas. California really has it out for non-ethanol gas.

____________________________________________

Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA, USA (Seriously! It's the USA out here!)
MEMBER: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, Vintage CORSA, Sfba CORSA, and the San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club.
THEN:
1965 Monza 110, Canary Yellow
1965 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red
1966 Monza 110, Purple
1967 Monza 140, Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW:
1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Blue; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 15, 2020 05:35PM

Eric, Im sure I've seen Stabil for Ethanol blended fuels at WalMart

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 15, 2020 05:43PM

playerpage Wrote:
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> Regarding the technique of removing the ethanol gas and replacing it with something else. Is there a product that will stabilize ethanol gas? There really isn't anywhere nearby that sells non-ethanol gas. California really has it out for non-ethanol gas.


Eric, where do the boats at the Reservoir get their fuel?
While usually at a higher cost, it is often Ethanol Free.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: September 15, 2020 06:06PM

Start with your local VP Racing Fuels dealer.

Cantrell Turf Equipment or RSI Petroleum.


[vpracingfuels.com]

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: September 15, 2020 06:07PM

American Mel Wrote:
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> playerpage Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Regarding the technique of removing the ethanol gas and replacing it with something else. Is there a product that will stabilize ethanol gas? There really isn't anywhere nearby that sells non-ethanol gas. California really has it out for non-ethanol gas.
>
>
> Eric, where do the boats at the Reservoir get their fuel?
> While usually at a higher cost, it is often Ethanol Free.

Best thing is to simply remove all the fuel. Not worries about stability, turning to gum, or leakage that way

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Avid Corvair hobbiest since 1984.
I have personally performed ground up restoration on over 20 Corvairs.
I currently work full time at restoring and repairing Corvairs.
Located in the Atlanta Georgia area.
[www.facebook.com]

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 16, 2020 02:14PM

"Best thing is to simply remove all the fuel. Not worries about stability, turning to gum, or leakage that way"
That's the answer!

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 113 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: irfgt ()
Date: September 16, 2020 04:26PM

I once loaned a vehicle to a "Friend" who wrecked his Corvette which was his only car.He said that he was not authorized a rental car and I felt sorry for him. As it turned out It took almost a year for him to get his car back and about a month after I got my car back with over 10,000 added miles he told me that he just got a check for $x,xxx for a rental car. He never offered me a damn dime of it.

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: September 16, 2020 07:21PM

Sta-Bil for ethanol blended gasoline is good for about six months.

For a year of storage the guys saying to drain the system and run the carbs dry are correct.

BTW - Small aircraft do NOT use ethanol blended gasoline and six months is considered the maximum for fuel in aircraft tanks, shorter if in a humid climate.

With a vented tank moisture will condense from air passing in and out of the tank due to temperature and air pressure changes. Small aircraft pilots are well aware of this issue. Small aircraft have sumps to drain water from the fuel tank(s) as part of the pre-flight procedure.

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: September 17, 2020 11:45AM

Cool.

A new reason to drive the wheels off!

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Re: Long-Term Storage Tips Vs. Loaning a vehicle
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: October 03, 2020 05:16AM

Any more ideas now that I've revealed my reasons and will be living and using the car in Fargo?

____________________________________________

Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA, USA (Seriously! It's the USA out here!)
MEMBER: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, Vintage CORSA, Sfba CORSA, and the San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club.
THEN:
1965 Monza 110, Canary Yellow
1965 Corsa 180 Turbo, Red
1966 Monza 110, Purple
1967 Monza 140, Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW:
1966 Corsa 180 Turbo, Blue; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"He cautioned me not to take notes. It would not have helped if I had, as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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