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Fan Belt Length
Posted by: mikeycee ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:11AM

Going to pick up a spare fan/alternator belt today. What are the length of these belts without removing the old belt?? confused smiley Mike

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:17AM

Don’t trust belt replacement guides at the store?

56”
3/8” wide or so.

3V560
15560

Etc.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:20AM

Gates Super HC 3V 560.
Not just any 3/8 x 56 inch belt!

Corventure Dave

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: mikeycee ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:24AM

Most places offer 57".....is this OK?

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:35AM

mikeycee Wrote:
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> Most places offer 57".....is this OK?
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NOPE! You want a 3V560 Period!







1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:49AM

3Vx560 if you like a cut belt, not wrapped. One of my cars seems to 'like' the 3Vx560 more than the 3V560.

Eric

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: mikeycee ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:49AM

Dave Advance Auto has a Carquest/Dayco #15560 in stock. However this belt has a top cog.....OK??

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 08, 2020 12:14PM

NO!! you want a 3V560 or 3VX560

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: buckeye ()
Date: September 08, 2020 01:03PM

Since I'm new to Corvairs and now hunting for a Rampside,please explain the difference between the 2 regular 3V560 and the 3v X 560? I have no idea what a cut belt means? I believe this is a good idea to have a spare..one never knows. Does this belt universally fit ALL like 1960-1969 Corvair engines whether 140,110....thanks!

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 08, 2020 01:09PM

Welcome to the CCF!

One size fits all! The 3vX560 is an IDUSTRIAL belt that fits perfectly and the "X" is to specify that it is WRAPPED, not just cut rubber. It "slips" better that raw / bare rubber.

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: September 08, 2020 05:28PM

[www.amazon.com]


Make life easy

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 08, 2020 07:49PM

I ran Dayco 15560 on many a car back in the day. Sure, I changed over to Clarks Ultimate at some point and keep them in stock, but I never had a bad issue with a 15560 Top Cog. Way better than "Road King" belts....grinning smiley

Mikey, What store suggested a 57" belt? What was the part number?

A true 57" belt should have the idler pulled back too far, not an issue on cars with belts in one plane, but the Corvair turning 90° to another plane makes the belt now in the wrong plane!

Anybody try these guys for Corvair belts? I just bought some HVAC belts from them and have very good results. They also carry Kevlar belts, but not in the 3V series.

The X added to a belt series indicates cogged belt.

Here is a good quick read:

[hvhindustrial.com]).

This info used to be in the old Browning catalogs.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:21PM

jjohnsonjo Wrote:
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> [www.amazon.com]
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>
> Make life easy


Make life easy ? ? ? and buy from a stranger? confused smiley

Easiest is to buy from Clark's, and get a belt that is KNOWN to be perfect for our cars.
And less costly than the one you posted.

> > Clark's Belt < <

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
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'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: RobertC ()
Date: September 08, 2020 11:48PM

American Mel Wrote:
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> jjohnsonjo Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > [www.amazon.com]
> >
> >
> > Make life easy
>
>
> Make life easy ? ? ? and buy from a stranger? confused smiley
>
> Easiest is to buy from Clark's, and get a belt that is KNOWN to be perfect for our cars.
> And less costly than the one you posted.
>
> > > Clark's Belt < <

Though it is good to support Crovair parts suppliers; some people (including me) think the 3V560 belt (or 3VX560 - unwrapped) is a better belt. Might tell by the posts in this thread.

FWIW, the Rockauto price is cheaper than Amazon's or Clark's. Obviously, you will probably pay more if you order it from your local auto parts store,

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: September 09, 2020 04:31AM

I don't know why no one ever says where they are from, state or city is all that is needed.
You may have a neighbor that has the correct belt!

The 15560 belt will work if you really need a belt now but the Idler pulley will be slightly forward. The reason is the belt is 7/16" wide at the top and rides ever so slightly higher in the grooves. This tends to give a little more belt issues but I ran them for years.

The 3V560 is a 3/8" wide belt and sits lower in the pulleys and the idler will now be almost perfectly aligned with the harmonic balancer/pulley.

There are reasons for the top cog and/or the bottom cog as the belt is supposed to run cooler because of internal flexing. Heaven knows, the Corvair belt does enough flexing!

I also sell wrapped belts. $10 ea. This is the same belt that I run on my race car to upwards of 6800 rpm.

I'm in Michgan! LOL

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: September 09, 2020 05:31AM

American Mel Wrote:
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> jjohnsonjo Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > [www.amazon.com]
> >
> >
> > Make life easy
>
>
> Make life easy ? ? ? and buy from a stranger? confused smiley
>
> Easiest is to buy from Clark's, and get a belt that is KNOWN to be perfect for our cars.
> And less costly than the one you posted.
>
I don't feel at all bad about not buying directly from Clarks, as I have spent many many thousands of $$$$ there. I have a prime account so shipping is almost free and most often 1 day because I live about 2 miles from a distribution center. I ran a Clarks belt for many years and wore one out, the second one was starting to get stretchy for lack of a better choice of words. I have been 95 % very happy with Clarks, but there have been times I wasn't happy and they wouldn't budge. Amazon, I print out a return label and thats it, it gets picked and gone. Plus when Clarks was closed for covid, a good decision for thier people, the world continued to run and I needed parts. I think this belt is better than Clarks, my own personal opinion.

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: September 09, 2020 07:45AM

I have no problems buying Corvair fan belts from Clarks. I see no need to reinvent the wheel.
And they have no problem shipping to SW Colorado. Then again I also don't wait until my last
belt (or one and only) breaks. Life is easy.

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 10, 2020 09:22AM

I've never been in need of a belt since I have at least 30 but I buy all of mine from Clark's. I have a '63 with a ton of miles on it that has been on the same Clark's belt for the last 20+ years possibly 30. It started out with the steel fan on it but has a '64 fan now. I guess there is no way to tell if the Clark's belts are still the same as that one. Now I'll have to replace it.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 113 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: Fan Belt Length
Posted by: mikeycee ()
Date: September 10, 2020 07:09PM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> I ran Dayco 15560 on many a car back in the day. Sure, I changed over to Clarks Ultimate at some point and keep them in stock, but I never had a bad issue with a 15560 Top Cog. Way better than "Road King" belts....grinning smiley
>
> Mikey, What store suggested a 57" belt? What was the part number?
>
> A true 57" belt should have the idler pulled back too far, not an issue on cars with belts in one plane, but the Corvair turning 90° to another plane makes the belt now in the wrong plane!
>
> Anybody try these guys for Corvair belts? I just bought some HVAC belts from them and have very good results. They also carry Kevlar belts, but not in the 3V series.
>
> The X added to a belt series indicates cogged belt.
>
> Here is a good quick read:
>
> [hvhindustrial.com]).
>
> This info used to be in the old Browning catalogs.


Frank it is NAPA #256597. Went ahead and bought the 15560 because couldn't get the other locally and needed it now.

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