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FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2020 08:57AM

Several here are concerned.

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: bought1 ()
Date: April 15, 2020 01:38PM

One of my employees lost his grandmother to it this morning. Made it 92 years only to die of it...

Dave

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: goatsnvairs ()
Date: April 15, 2020 01:59PM

Its the real deal. Put 1,000 people in a room with the flu and 1 will die. Of 1,000 corona infections, 40 will die. Not close to the same. I wear a mask wherever I go and will keep doing it until I get a vaccine.



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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: April 15, 2020 02:41PM

goatsnvairs - we don't have enough information to know that yet. I've never seen any numbers on flu infections vs deaths but I have seen flu death numbers and they so far way exceed the China virus deaths. No idea if it will stay that way.
Where did you get your 1 in 1000 number?

Joel
Northlake, TX
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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2020 02:47PM

Guys "The Curve" has peaked for the time being...what the CDC has been looking for.The Red Cross wants Plasma!

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Date: April 15, 2020 02:47PM

goatsnvairs Wrote:
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> Its the real deal. Put 1,000 people in a room with the flu and 1 will die. Of 1,000 corona infections, 40 will die. Not close to the same. I wear a mask wherever I go and will keep doing it until I get a vaccine.

Nobody knows how many people are infected with CoronaVirus. Without that basic information your statistic above is invalid.

"in a room" - a ridiculous concept.
The county that I live in has about 1,000 "known" cases with 20 people listed as victims of the CV.
Population of the county is estimated around 1,000,000.
I'm not worried, my town has around 30 "known" cases - just glad I'm not in New York city or Seattle area!!!


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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: April 15, 2020 02:54PM

Texas as of this afternoon: 15492 cases 364 dead. That's 2.35% not 4% and that is just confirmed cases. I've talked to lots of people that have had it and didn't bother to go to the hospital or get tested. I'm not going to the hospital unless I think I'm about to die.

Joel
Northlake, TX
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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2020 03:02PM

Gn'V...I doubt few here do not realize how dangerous C-19 is. I'm with you. I WANT A VACCINE/ CURE, otherwise, there may not even be a 2021 Convention. IMO

But, as Dan states "Safety is in the numbers! "Smaller is better"...so far

The state of New York has ONE THIRD of the cases in the US!

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: April 15, 2020 04:06PM

*SOMETHING IS FISHY!!*?

Wuhan to Shanghai = 839km

Wuhan to Beijing = 1,152km

Wuhan to Milan = 15,000km

Wuhan to NY = 15,000km

The Coronavirus started in Wuhan yet there is no effect of Coronavirus in nearby Beijing or Shanghai but many deaths in Italy, Iran, European countries and USA.

All business areas of China are now safe.

*Something is fishy.*

America is not just blaming China without a reason.

Even today, India is locked down but all the cities of China are open. China has also announced the opening of Wuhan from April 08. Not a single leader in China has tested positive for the deadly Coronavirus.

*Something is fishy.*

The virus has ruined many economies around the world. Many have had to close their borders in an attempt to contain and control the spread of the Coronavirus. Thousands have lost their lives, millions have now got this disease, countless people have been locked in their homes and many countries have placed their citizens on lock down.

*Something is fishy.*

The Coronavirus orginated from the city of Wuhan in China and has now reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not reach China's capital Beijing and China's Economic Capital Shanghai, located in close proximity to Wuhan itself.

*Something is fishy*

Today Paris is closed, New York is closed, Berlin is closed, Delhi is closed, Mumbai is closed, Tokyo is closed, the world's major economic and political centers are closed, but Beijing and Shanghai are open. No Coronavirus effect is seen in either cities. There were only a few cases but the virus had no real effect on Beijing and Shanghai.

*Something is fishy.*

Beijing is the city where all the leaders of China live, including their military leaders. There is no lock down in Beijing.

*Something is fishy*

Shanghai is the city that runs China's economy. It is the economic capital of China, where all the rich people of China live and run major industries. There is no lock down here, there is no effect of the Coronavirus there.

*Something is fishy*

Beijing and Shanghai are the areas adjoining Wuhan. The virus from Wuhan reached every corner of the world, but the virus did not affect Beijing and Shanghai.

*Something is fishy*

Another big thing is, that the worldwide share market has fallen by almost half. In India also the Nifty has gone from 12 thousand to 7 thousand, but the share market of China was at 3000 and just merely dropped to 2700.

*Something is fishy*

This leaves one to speculate that the Coronavirus is a bio-chemical weapon of China, which China used to carry out destruction in the world in order to gain economic supremacy.

China has now put this virus under control, maybe they also have the antidote/ vaccine that they are not sharing with the world ever or will do when it is in their best interest to do so.

*Something is fishy*

Hollywood stars, Australia's Home Minister, Britain's Prime Minister and Health Minister, Spain's Prime Minister's wife, Canada's Prime Minister's wife, and Britain's Prince Charles, among others, have contracted the Coronavirus, but NOT A SINGLE POLITICAL LEADER IN CHINA, NOT A SINGLE MILITARY COMMANDER in China have tested positive for Coronavirus.



*SOMETHING IS FISHY!!!!*

J.O.

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: goatsnvairs ()
Date: April 15, 2020 04:10PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> Texas as of this afternoon: 15492 cases 364 dead. That's 2.35% not 4% and that is just confirmed cases. I've talked to lots of people that have had it and didn't bother to go to the hospital or get tested. I'm not going to the hospital unless I think I'm about to die.

The United States is not just Texas. Latest data across U.S. 4.2%, so out of 1,000 42 dead. The flu kills .1% of those affected. CDC average.

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: goatsnvairs ()
Date: April 15, 2020 04:13PM

1966-Corsa-GT-180 Wrote:
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> goatsnvairs Wrote:
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> > Its the real deal. Put 1,000 people in a room with the flu and 1 will die. Of 1,000 corona infections, 40 will die. Not close to the same. I wear a mask wherever I go and will keep doing it until I get a vaccine.
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> Nobody knows how many people are infected with CoronaVirus. Without that basic information your statistic above is invalid.
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> "in a room" - a ridiculous concept.
> The county that I live in has about 1,000 "known" cases with 20 people listed as victims of the CV.
> Population of the county is estimated around 1,000,000.
> I'm not worried, my town has around 30 "known" cases - just glad I'm not in New York city or Seattle area!!!
In a room concept was just an example, not literally "in a room". As of today the death rate in the U.S. is 4.2%, the flu on average kills .1%. Per 1000 people who get either its 42 versus 1. That's the point.
Nobody knows how many people get the flu each year either, so that number is likely inflated as well.



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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: SteveInMarietta ()
Date: April 15, 2020 05:27PM

<*Something is fishy*>
To add to the list...

China somehow vaccinates several billion people and not one of them speaks a word of it; and not one US agent in the country is aware of it. (Let's not talk about a "it's in the water" antidote - that's a batman movie type science fiction idea smiling smiley

Steve

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: April 15, 2020 05:32PM

Just watched another press conference, NO ONE has a freaken clue what the real denominator is. So all these numbers are guesses, maybe good ,maybe bad. There are countless folks that have had this with symptoms so minor they don't qualify for a test.

As for us, we are in 70s, so we behave, my wife is a life long RN, so we are used to behaving. We started running our second fridge so we don't have to get groceries as often. Mail and Prime get a two day cooling off period in the garage and we wash after we bring it in. Our Gov didn't get the message that state stores are a necessity, all the gov workers get a paid vacation, so we decided to take a 15 mile run over to NJ to replenish. So I walk in with my neck gator over my face and wearing rubber gloves. Wow, if I had done this a month ago the guns would have come out. Parking lot was almost all Pa plates.

J.O.

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69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: April 15, 2020 06:09PM

How my wife, son and I spent our social distancing day. We both hurt, but fresh air, sun and exercise always helps.

J.O.

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69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: goatsnvairs ()
Date: April 15, 2020 06:16PM

jjohnsonjo Wrote:
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> How my wife, son and I spent our social distancing day. We both hurt, but fresh air, sun and exercise always helps.

Awesome! Yes it does! We have acreage too, and an in home gym so our social distancing is not requiring too many changes.

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: April 15, 2020 06:42PM

And all I wanted to do was to hi-lite the fact a "plateau" had been reached as I've written recently and that The RedCross is actively looking for Plasma from "Recovered" people. There's Hope!

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: jimc ()
Date: April 15, 2020 06:46PM

I am thankful that we are heading into Spring/Summer and not Fall/Winter and not dealing with a foot of snow or more and below freezing temps.

Time to get out and work in the yard breath some fresh air, clean out the garage and work on the Corsa.

Stay well folks.

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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: April 15, 2020 07:30PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> And all I wanted to do was to hi-lite the fact a "plateau" had been reached as I've written recently and that The RedCross is actively looking for Plasma from "Recovered" people. There's Hope!

Matt, glad you started the conversation again, its good for the group, I know you and Jake miss the casinos. The good news is that things are progressing in a good way. Plus there is a lot more for us "half Full " types to find positive things to keep us moving along with life. I guess it may be tough for the " half empty" types.

If I run out of Scotch, things may change LOL

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa





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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: April 15, 2020 08:57PM

goatsnvairs Wrote:
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> The United States is not just Texas. Latest data across U.S. 4.2%, so out of 1,000 42 dead. The flu kills .1% of those affected. CDC average.

My bad. I was comparing my country with the US and I don't know where you live. I still don't buy your analysis. With all the hype anyone that has the China virus and dies will be counted as a China virus death. It wouldn't surprise me if you died in a car wreck and tested positive for China virus you would be added to the death total. No one gets excited about the flu so cause of death is probably more realistic. Lots of people have had the China virus and recovered without being tested so that makes the death percentage higher. I've probably talked to a dozen and none of them went in for a test.
I just checked the CDC website and what I found said flu numbers are estimated cases. You can't compare that to the actual test numbers of the China virus. The numbers would be heavily skewed in the direction of less deaths for the flu percentage wise.

Joel
Northlake, TX
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Re: FYI : New cases BY DAY of COVID-19 as of 4/14 in the US
Posted by: goatsnvairs ()
Date: April 16, 2020 05:32AM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> goatsnvairs Wrote:
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> > joelsplace Wrote:
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> > The United States is not just Texas. Latest data across U.S. 4.2%, so out of 1,000 42 dead. The flu kills .1% of those affected. CDC average.
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> I just checked the CDC website and what I found said flu numbers are estimated cases. You can't compare that to the actual test numbers of the China virus. The numbers would be heavily skewed in the direction of less deaths for the flu percentage wise.

You can argue the death rates of Covid and the flu all day, there is no question if you get this you are more likely to die, especially if older or compromised. Johns Hopkins data shows on average 12.36 people die per day in New York of the flu/pneumonia. Right now they are losing 700 people per day. They are putting them in refrigerated trailers. That is with strict social distancing in place which they dont do for flu season. Can you imagine if there was no restrictions? Granted, that is NY, but it is NY flu versus NY Covid, same area, same dense population. Fortunately rural areas are not spreading it as much, which is why each state will have its own relaxing process. All I know is if I get sick with either, I'd be hoping its the flu.

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