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O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 20, 2020 06:44AM

Brought home my 1952 Pontiac Straight 8 take out I bought.

It came out of a Chieftan that got an LS (criminal) V8 swap.

Got everything from the radiator cap to Hydromatic u-joint.

My Dad was a huge Straight 8 fan...he always told a story.

About the front of the crank 3 degrees ahead of the rear.

At wide open throttle full tilt which is about 4000 RPM.

Working on a 1940 IH Army Air Corp D-30 rat rod deal.

If that happens it will be the Dally Deal of the century.

Ditch that 1985 Jag V-12 (smog) and stuff in the 8.

Many thanks to "The Stig" for Pontiac 8 guidance.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Spectre ()
Date: February 20, 2020 06:59AM

Cool! I loved the innovation of the many American car manufacturers we had in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. Such a shame that we are down to 3 American car makers, and one of those is foreign-owned.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible - 140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

2013 Mustang GT convertible - 5.0, 6spd auto, Procharger i-1

2003 Miata SE - 6spd manual (wife's toy)

"Victory is mine!" - SG

Norman, OK

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: February 20, 2020 07:08AM

Yeehaw! Such a cool looking engine. Had mine out running around this weekend.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: February 20, 2020 08:53AM

I never imagined a '52 straight 8 engine came with an internally regulated alternator. Just shows Pontiac was way ahead
of all the rest (?). I agree Phil on stuffing the V12. I have heard they have valve seat problems in that all aluminum
engine. Yuck.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 20, 2020 08:58AM

The Chieftan was converted to 12v.

I want to go back to generator 6v.


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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: davemotohead ()
Date: February 20, 2020 09:40AM

Funny, my dad told me about the 3 degree crank flex as well when we were rebuilding the Packard straight 8. smoking smiley







1960 4dr sedan caveman car
1961 Rampside (Chetside)
1962 Rampside (Barnside)
1962 Short Rampside (Shortside)
1962 Monza 700 Wagon
1963 Monza 900 coup (General Nader)

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Rust Free Lancaster Ca

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 20, 2020 09:45AM

We all miss those stories from the Greatest Generation.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: February 20, 2020 11:45AM

Phil, I've been driving this 268 ci. every summer since '72 in my '41 Pontiac coupe. Crane cam, HEI, milled, dual bank headers, 6 volt starter on 12V, alternator, dual Holey/Weber 5210's, Muncie 4 speed,7 blade aluminum fan, 70 mph at 3200 rpm

Dan Brizendine, Circle City Corvairs
'64 8door Greenbrier 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Brizo ()
Date: February 20, 2020 11:47AM

couple more

Dan Brizendine, Circle City Corvairs
'64 8door Greenbrier 140 PG. "In beautiful Wanamaker Indiana...with one stop light and 5 pizza shops"

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 20, 2020 11:58AM

Now that is a real Hot Rod.

Does Geoff know about this.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: February 21, 2020 12:49PM

Personally, I think that would be a hell of a lot nicer and more useful as a real truck than a rat rod crap.




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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Caraholic4life ()
Date: February 21, 2020 12:59PM

Phil,
Here are some aftermarket turn signals you might have an interest in?
PM sent with further information.

1962 95 F.C. Van
1965 Monza Coupe
Westminster, Maryland

MID ENG enthusiast &
prior Kelmark owner.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: February 21, 2020 06:40PM

Richard Wrote:
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> Personally, I think that would be a hell of a lot nicer and more useful as a real truck than a rat rod crap.
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Maybe so, but since someone has already whacked it up, . . . . why not run with it?

You GO Phil ! ! ! thumbs up

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Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: February 28, 2020 02:39AM

Phil:

Is this what you might be looking for. It is in Calgary.smiling bouncing smiley

[www.kijiji.ca]

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 28, 2020 04:30AM

Very nice wiener Al...but must be pre 1975.

C/L seller ended up being a crackhead.

1940 International deal fell through.

Straight 8 should be running soon.

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Posted by: irvan ()
Date: February 28, 2020 05:13AM

I have fond memories of second gear scratch in my 54 Pontiac straight 8 in 1962 when I was 14.

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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: JimBrandberg ()
Date: February 28, 2020 05:41AM

Sorry to hear the International deal didn't work out. Sort of a horse before the cart situation now but a straight-8 is cool. Is the Pontiac considered more of a performer than the Buick?

Jim Brandberg
Isanti, MN
CorvairRepair.com



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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: February 28, 2020 05:57AM

The overhead valve Buick is the best Hot Rod choice.

The Pontiac 8 was a better do it now great price deal.

#218 video is fellow Sidewinder: "Eight in a Row Racing"

Buick 8 in the Rat Rod picture is just for you Richard.


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Re: O/T-My Quest for Something Different Got Serious
Posted by: Spectre ()
Date: February 28, 2020 06:20AM

Modern power is nice, smooth, and reliable. But you just can't beat the cool factor of the old stuff. That ratrod is awesome.

David Clamp


1965 Corsa convertible - 140 4spd/3.55/AM-FM

2013 Mustang GT convertible - 5.0, 6spd auto, Procharger i-1

2003 Miata SE - 6spd manual (wife's toy)

"Victory is mine!" - SG

Norman, OK

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Posted by: wv-geo ()
Date: February 28, 2020 09:54AM

Spectre Wrote:
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> Modern power is nice, smooth, and reliable. But you just can't beat the cool factor of the old stuff. That ratrod is awesome.

The straight 8 has a smooth idle, and is a torque monster.
As for reliable, I betcha Phil's engine will not need a rebuild
and start on the first crank.

Phil, I'm not that familiar with the L-head Pontiac 8, does it have
5 main bearings or 9?

Dan Stark
Hurricane, WV

1961 Lakewood 500, 80HP, PG
1964 Corvair 500 Coupe, 140HP, 4spd (Christine)
1965 Mustang Coupe, 6cyl, 3spd

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