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OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 31, 2020 09:15PM

Other than etrailer, where is the best place and price to purchase a gooseneck hitch?

Thanks

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 01, 2020 05:02AM

This is what my new trailer is going to be..
NOTE: This is not the dealer I'm working with. They just had a good video that I found quickly.
https://youtu.be/hYyxBj-oZ3c

I've already worked out the price with the trailer dealer that I'm working with and when I have more time; I'm finalizing the rest and putting my deposit on it next week.

hot smileyFYI - With this trailer I will also be able to transport the post for my Barn and unload them easier than manual labor. Not to mention the loading and unloading of Ultravans. GRIN hot smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/01/2020 05:05AM by OttawaCorvairGuy.

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 01, 2020 08:54PM

Year: 2020, Size: 24' long & 8.5' wide, GVWR: 15680, Payload Capacity: 9360 lbs.

I can picture 24 foot long post tied down on one of these and sliding off so easily at the job site,
along with the ease of being able to load and unload most any type of vehicle and more so Ultravans. grinning smiley

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: February 02, 2020 12:26AM

Don't forget a fast winch...

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Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: February 02, 2020 06:08AM

With the angle of the deck I'm pretty sure you will need secondary ramps to decrease the angle of unloading so the front and the rear do not drag on the bed. Easy to do and make then not skid.

Another thing to check into is the towing capacity of your tow truck. You need to know what the trailer weighs and then subtract that from the gross trailer weight or capacity, that is what the trailer can carry. That total weight may be beyond the capacity of your tow vehicle. Just think of your last drive home pulling a trailer!

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

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Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: February 02, 2020 06:10AM

OH, check used truck dealers! When they get trucks traded in with hitches they pull them off so people don't know the vehicle was used for towing!

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 02, 2020 06:39AM

vairmech Wrote:
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> With the angle of the deck I'm pretty sure you will need secondary ramps to decrease the angle of unloading so the front and the rear do not drag on the bed. Easy to do and make then not skid.

Honestly, I didn't even think about that.
I got so darn excited about buying a trailer I wanted and how easy it's gong to be to load and unload stuff vs the one I have...
And if the trip goes as planned to pick up the trailer, I can swing by and pickup the Pole Barn post on the way back home. Big GRIN
Then watch those long post slide off the trailer. Big SMILE

As for Loading and Unloading Ultravans:
I could place one or more 2X8s flat and staggered as needed, like steps and then lower the deck to rest on the highest part.
That will change the angle and should allow an Ultravan to roll up without hitting.


> Another thing to check into is the towing capacity of your tow truck.

How can I find out the towing capacity?
All I know is that my truck is a 2001 Chevy G3500 (1ton) cab and chassis or as they like to call them: a Cutaway.
BTW - That's the word we were trying to come up with the other week: "Cutaway".


> You need to know what the trailer weighs and then subtract that from the gross trailer weight or capacity, that is what the trailer can carry. That total weight may be beyond the capacity of your tow vehicle. Just think of your last drive home pulling a trailer!

Someone only read my first post. ggg
I posted that info last night. (see below too)
Year: 2020, Size: 24' long & 8.5' wide, GVWR: 15680, Payload Capacity: 9360 lbs.


So the trailer itself weighs: 6320lbs.



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Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 02, 2020 06:46AM

vairmech Wrote:
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> OH, check used truck dealers! When they get trucks traded in with hitches they pull them off so people don't know the vehicle was used for towing!

Thanks

I'm not sure they make a gooseneck hitch for a van frame...

And I have since found out the it is different than your regular Silverado frame.

But it does not hurt to ask...

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: February 04, 2020 06:16AM

You will find out that there is nothing made for the Van frame! Even the partial builds like you have were always destined to have something mounted on the back other than a hitch in a bed.

Ken Hand
Handy Car Care
248 613 8586

Vairmech@aol.com

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 04, 2020 09:19AM

vairmech Wrote:
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> You will find out that there is nothing made for the Van frame! Even the partial builds like you have were always destined to have something mounted on the back other than a hitch in a bed.


That I have since found out. ggg

It so happens that I called my metal and welder guy this morning and he can bend a large plate of steel and shape it to fit the G3500 frame so we can mount a ball on it for the gooseneck.

I'm just waiting for him to finish the farm tractor that has been ahead of me.

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: isucorvair ()
Date: February 04, 2020 06:39PM

The internet shows a max towing capacity to a 2001 G3500 as 10k lbs.


Eric P
DeWitt, IA

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 04, 2020 06:52PM

isucorvair Wrote:
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> The internet shows a max towing capacity to a 2001 G3500 as 10k lbs.
>
>
> Eric P
> DeWitt, IA


Thanks Eric,

I think I recall a sticker inside the door. I'll have to check it out.

I wonder if GAS vs Diesel makes a difference??

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: February 04, 2020 07:02PM

OttawaCorvairGuy Wrote:
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> isucorvair Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > The internet shows a max towing capacity to a 2001 G3500 as 10k lbs.
> >
> >
> > Eric P
> > DeWitt, IA
>
>
> Thanks Eric,
>
> I think I recall a sticker inside the door. I'll have to check it out.
>
> I wonder if GAS vs Diesel makes a difference??


I believe that the explanation lies in the fact that these types of vehicles (Cab&chassis), are expected to have a large Cargo Box sitting on the back of them and they (the Manufacturer) do not want you to be loading said vehicle beyond its designed weight parameters.
They are making the assumption that you will be driving around with close to 10,000 lbs. of tools, hardware, or product sitting over the rear wheels, besides what ever you choose to load into the 10,000 lb. trailer it is rated for.

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'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
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'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
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Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: February 04, 2020 07:16PM

GVWR: 15680, Payload Capacity: 9360 lbs = trailer weight of 6320
G3500 tow capacity 10,000 - 6320 = 3680 trailer capacity with your van. "rated"
That's barely a Corvair powered Ultra.
I would double check your specific van's capacity. With my van back in '95 it varied greatly with different options.
In the US 10,000 is the maximum trailer weight before you have to have a CDL or Class A license.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...




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Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: February 04, 2020 08:39PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> GVWR: 15680, Payload Capacity: 9360 lbs = trailer weight of 6320
> G3500 tow capacity 10,000 - 6320 = 3680 trailer capacity with your van. "rated"
> That's barely a Corvair powered Ultra.
> I would double check your specific van's capacity. With my van back in '95 it varied greatly with different options.
> In the US 10,000 is the maximum trailer weight before you have to have a CDL or Class A license.


Maybe IF you are driving for work ? ? ? confused smiley
I know that a LOT of 5th Wheel RV's are in the range of, or OVER 15,000lbs. dry weight!
No CDL required to pull them.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: February 05, 2020 05:30AM

You guys are getting me to second guess if
my truck can haul it or
if I should even get the trailer.... Grin


Like my mom would say: "You are putting the cart before the horse."
Maybe I'm jumping the gun and need to slow down..

After today, when things start to settle down, I can do some more research into things and stop being a kid in a candy store, when it comes to wanting this new trailer... GRIN & LOL

I've got to run. One last cleaning, before they move in later today...

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: idiyaught ()
Date: February 05, 2020 05:57AM

Class A
 
The Ontario Highway Traffic Act states a Class A vehicle is “any tractor-trailer or combination of motor vehicle and towed vehicles where the towed vehicles exceed a total gross weight of 4,600 kilograms”
This basically means if you plan on pulling a trailer(s) that weighs more than 4,600 kilograms or 10,141 pounds this is the license for you.  People often confuse this with a Tractor Trailer license, but while it is the license held by all tractor-trailer drivers it’s not the same because it’s a commercial only license,  it’s because of the weight of the vehicle(s) being towed.
This class of license does have a few requirements.
You MUST have and pass a medical exam.
You must redo the road test at 80 years of age, or at 65 if driver has demerits points/at fault accident.
It does cost more and requires upkeep including new medicals and written/road testing as required by law.
Class A Restricted (Class AR)
 In 2008, Ontario recognized, that many RV’ers had trailers over the limit of 4,600 kg and were required to get a Class A license in order to stay legal.  All to many Ontario License Offices refused to give the road test using a RV type combinations and insisted on a more Tractor Trailer type combination which needless to say was overkill, impractical and down right impossible for many RV’ers to do.  So Ontario came up with a Restricted license.  This allowed RV’ers to pull into a Ontario Testing Facility and do the road test using their existing equipment and then drive/pull configuration of a similar size.  This was a bonus for the RV’er or people towing applicable trailers (such as horse or utility trailers).  With this license you can pull a vehicle over the weight of 4,600 kg but you may NOT:
Drive full size tractor-trailers
Drive a motor vehicle pulling double trailers
Drive a motor vehicle pulling a trailer with air-brakes. (You must have an air brake endorsement first).
Drivers with the “R” restrictive condition will not be allowed to provide driver instruction to another person on a vehicle requiring full Class A privileges.
All Class A requirements are still applicable such as medicals and the like in order to get and keep up a Restricted Class A license.
You may also need the yearly inspection on truck and trailer

John Oostdyk
Thornhill, Ont
63 Rampy
65 Greenbrier
64 Convertible

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: Kyle_in_Mich ()
Date: February 05, 2020 10:17AM

American Mel Wrote:
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> Maybe IF you are driving for work ? ? ? confused smiley
> I know that a LOT of 5th Wheel RV's are in the range of, or OVER 15,000lbs. dry weight!
> No CDL required to pull them.


This is correct. Once it is no longer personal, license up. Even if it is hauling a car for a friend, if they are paying you, you can get is a decent amount of trouble for not having appropriate license.

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Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: February 05, 2020 08:07PM

American Mel Wrote:
> Maybe IF you are driving for work ? ? ? confused smiley
> I know that a LOT of 5th Wheel RV's are in the range of, or OVER 15,000lbs. dry weight!
> No CDL required to pull them.

They may do it but aren't legal
Classification Description
Class A

Authorizes an individual to drive:

Single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more
A combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 pounds or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...

Re: OT - Where is the best place to purchase a Gooseneck Hitch?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: February 05, 2020 08:39PM

If it ain't legal, it sure ain't enforced ! ! !

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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