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OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 29, 2019 07:15AM

Even though it's only 26f outside. I had to get some measurements this morning.

My new to me, G3500 6.5 turbo diesel is going to change hopefully sooner than later. Grin
It all depends on how fast I can locate and purchase everything and when Kevin can install it.

What I have to start with is a nice cab and chassis (kept inside until I got it) with 21,000 original miles.


What I want to end up with is a decent hay & toy hauler.
Nothing fancy. But nice enough to use, enjoy and be proud to own it.

After measuring things I think I know what can and can't be done.
Helpful input is always welcome.

Back of Cab to Center of Axle = 100 to 101" if I remove the cab extension. (Installed after this picture.)
From Center of Axle to rear of bed = 64 to 66" depending on where and how we finish the rear of the bed.
Center of Axle to front of bed = 34 to 36" depending on how and where we finish off the front of the bed.

What my H&T Hauler will have:
A 5 foot long sleeper box
An 8 foot long flatbed
A gooseneck hitch in the bed
A removable fifth wheel hitch above the gooseneck hitch
and the tow behind hitch that I've already installed.

What I've been looking for this winter is either:
1. A nice box that has already been removed or
2. A nice box on a truck that I'm able to get at a good price.

I've also been comparing the different flatbeds available on the market to figure out which one I want.



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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 29, 2019 09:37AM

The Sleeper Box is going to be the front half or section of a used cube box.
It will be 8' wide to mate up with the running boards that came with the cab and chassis.
It will be a minimum of 5 feet long and should not be any longer than 5' 6" to allow for the 8' flatbed and still allow a standard gooseneck trailer to be towed.
The back of the sleeper box will land in the area on the frame in front of the front rear leaf spring mount.

It would be nice if it had a side door.
However that will eat up some value wall and floor space inside and I'm still undecided on which way to go with that.



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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 30, 2019 07:14AM

This is the style of the kitchenette (not sure what size yet) that I hope to install in my sleeper box.
https://www.amazon.com/Avanti-Complete-Compact-Kitchen-Refrigerator/dp/B018EZO8FK

I still have not found the right settee bed for the space.

Ryan, what have you done with your space in the fire truck sleeper?



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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: rowin4 ()
Date: December 30, 2019 09:50PM

Looks like you have a good start on a toy hauler. I know that they have made those sink stove units for years and every time I see one I wonder ? ELECTRICITY AND WATER CONNECTED BY A STAINLESS TOP. To me not a good combination.

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 31, 2019 07:16AM

Thanks. From my understanding, they use them a lot in places like NY with their small apartments and RVs.
Stainless last a long time and they do make GFCI circuit breakers.



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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 04, 2020 01:46PM

Thought I found a good box. But the owner of the ad would not reply back.
I thought about reporting it. But I have better things to do with my time.
Like trying to find another box for my G3500 Project. Grin

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 09, 2020 04:49PM

Went to get plates for this today to have it on the road full time starting this summer once the snow is all gone.

However, there is a new rule and the purchase invoice from the business I got the truck is NOT good enough.
All invoices "bill of sale" now have to be signed by both parties and no copies are allowed.

I called the company and they are sending out a new signed invoice.

The other issue is that Ontario puts the wieght of all trucks, no matter their size, on the registration and it's not on the old title.
So I have to also go get it weighed.

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 12, 2020 07:12PM

Spent this weekend looking for a dually truck bed that will fit my G3500 and installing some hardwood flooring.

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 13, 2020 07:59AM

After a lot of thought and pricing things out. I've decided to go with an 8 foot dually truck bed - if I'm able to find one and get it to fit/work.
Much easier to toss things in the box vs having to always have to tie them down on a flatbed.

This is close to what I want to end up with. However, the sleeper box is going to be more square looking, maybe even slightly ugly looking on the outside.

This is closer to what the sleeper box will look like. But it will be a little wider and taller, for more creature comforts inside. Big GRIN!

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 13, 2020 01:35PM

Just get one of these and be done with it. grinning smiley
> > > Lil' Big Rig < < <

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
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non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 13, 2020 02:15PM

American Mel Wrote:
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> Just get one of these and be done with it. grinning smiley
> > > > Lil' Big Rig < < <

Maybe! If I had your money... But I like what I have in mind.
And more than likely at less than half the cost of one of those.

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: January 13, 2020 06:08PM

HA!
I have less money than YOU!
Cost is something like $13,000.oo, plus you supply the donor truck.
Here are the pictures you requested.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, 80hp, PG
'62 Monza Wagon, 4spd.
'63 Spyder,
'65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dually, approaching 400K
'03 Honda Del Sol
17'Terry

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 13, 2020 07:04PM

Thanks Mel.

The more and more I look at it, I really like the proportions of the black van..

My box or sleeper idea, due to cost and availability, was more like the pickup sleeper box, but even taller..

I wanted something I could stand in without bending over.
But now I might have to go for looks over function.

I might have a transport job next month and I was hoping to find and pick up, my sleeper box, on my travels, to save me time and money.

Truck = 6k
Dually bed = 2 to 3.5k (Depending on year and condition)
Sleeper box = 2 to 5k (Depending on year, size, options and condition)
And I'm looking for white so I wouldn't have to paint anything.
But white comes at a price.

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 13, 2020 07:56PM

White so you wouldn't have to paint anything? Black is the only color that works with as far as I know.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 14, 2020 02:55AM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> White so you wouldn't have to paint anything? Black is the only color that works with as far as I know.

Joel, I'll answer the first part. My G3500 has white and if I can find a nice sleeper box and dually bed in good condition in white it would be less work and no painting to make it work.

As for your second part or statement. I don't know what you're trying to say.
"Black is the only color that works with as far as I know."
That works with WHAT, as far as you know? You left that part out. ggg

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 14, 2020 01:08PM

Works with matching. Black is black. White will not match white.
Or at least that is what all the painter friends I've had always said.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...




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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 14, 2020 01:45PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> Works with matching. Black is black. White will not match white.
> Or at least that is what all the painter friends I've had always said.


Oh okay, I understand and yes there are different shades of white.
But I would still be happier with white that doesn't match over having let's say, red sleeper box and blue truck bed/box. LOL

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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: January 14, 2020 06:15PM

True and since there will be a gap it doesn't have to be as close to look fine.
I'm guessing there will be some kind of filler panel to join the sleeper to the front body.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, 114 Corvairs and counting...




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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: January 14, 2020 06:20PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> True and since there will be a gap it doesn't have to be as close to look fine.
> I'm guessing there will be some kind of filler panel to join the sleeper to the front body.


NO. Just a rubber gasket or seal.
It is like mounting a cube box on the back.



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Re: OT - G3500 Project - OT
Posted by: rowin4 ()
Date: January 14, 2020 07:35PM

Black is Black? I think not. There is probably 50 or more shades of Black in auto paint

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