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Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 22, 2019 05:00PM

If so - would you happen to have a part number and vendor?
FYI - I'm not looking for a relay with 87 and 87a terminals!!

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: December 22, 2019 06:15PM

Can you install a spade pigtail to a standard relay that will allow two connections to the 87 terminal?

spade pigtail

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 22, 2019 07:03PM

Dean, that's a cool item.
I'm wondering how one could neatly and safely insulate such an item from the possibility of shorting out?

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 22, 2019 07:17PM

Liquid insulation / electrical tape

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: ihscomputers ()
Date: December 22, 2019 07:31PM

You can also use insulated female connectors

insulated connectors

OR

use the non-insulated connectors and put shrink tubing over them after they have been crimped...

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: Freeman ()
Date: December 22, 2019 09:10PM

Similar to what Dean showed in his first response is the piggyback spade quick connect which I used recently on my RV. Piggyback Quick Connect

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Rowlett, TX
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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 22, 2019 09:22PM

You mean this?

[www.delcity.net]

winking smiley

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 23, 2019 02:40AM

Use this terminal and if relay fails, you can get a replacement relay from any parts store.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG


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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 23, 2019 05:49AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> You mean this?
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> [www.delcity.net]
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> winking smiley


Thank you Frank. That's just what I was searching for.
I tried 5 pin relay with 2 87 post. But never thought of asking for dual 87 post. Grin

Thanks again...

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 23, 2019 06:03AM

As for the other connectors.

I could see them being useful with some wiring.
However, I don't see how they would fit and work on the back side of the plastic relay connector and not be a problem or in the way.
More so when mounting the relay and the plastic connectornot to metal.

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: December 23, 2019 06:17AM

Cool! The relay gives you dual contacts if you have heavy loads plus cleaner wiring than the dual spade terminal provides.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
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66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 23, 2019 06:32AM

azdave Wrote:
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> Cool! The relay gives you dual contacts if you have heavy loads plus cleaner wiring than the dual spade terminal provides.

Dave, That is why I want to used them. Grin



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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 23, 2019 05:15PM

Here is a diagram I did a couple of years ago.
(I had to find the picture again since the motherboard on that computer fired years ago and I lost a lot of information that I have to get all over again.)


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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: CoCoCo ()
Date: December 25, 2019 12:27AM

azdave that diagram is interesting. While the schematic does show dual-87 "normally open" contacts, it lists one of them as 87a which seems incorrect.

I've never seen an 87a that was not normally-closed. The #87 (without the "a") acts like a standard normally-open pin, where it's hot only with the relay energized.
But the #87a (with the "a") is supposed to be hot when the relay is in it's normal de-energized position.

Is that not correct? That's the way I always saw them.

Thanks

Paul

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 25, 2019 12:51AM

The one relay that has the 87a tied into the 87 so they have the same contact motion. So Dual 87s to power 2 items when activated.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG


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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: December 25, 2019 11:01AM

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Ottawa
motherboard on that computer fired years ago and I lost a lot of information

There was available an adapter that would plug into a hard drive to make it a USB drive, and it came with a power supply to power the hard drive from a wall wart*. Very handy to get a hard drive out of a dead computer and get the files off it.smileys with beer

Quick Google search shows many ways....


*wall wart, one of those black boxes that plugs into a receptacle and makes the wall look like it has warts.... Old term.grinning smiley

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 25, 2019 11:33AM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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Ottawa
> motherboard on that computer fired years ago and I lost a lot of information
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>
> There was available an adapter that would plug into a hard drive to make it a USB drive, and it came with a power supply to power the hard drive from a wall wart*. Very handy to get a hard drive out of a dead computer and get the files off it.smileys with beer
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> Quick Google search shows many ways....
>
>
> *wall wart, one of those black boxes that plugs into a receptacle and makes the wall look like it has warts.... Old term.grinning smiley


Thanks Franks.
I did order one some time ago that the guy at Staples said would work and it did not.
So I've put it off...
But I'm seriously thinking of getting one that has multiple style of ports.
One has to work. Grin

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 25, 2019 11:35AM

Tony, what TYPE of hard drive is it?

SATA IDE?

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: December 25, 2019 11:43AM

MattNall Wrote:
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> Tony, what TYPE of hard drive is it?
>
> SATA IDE?


Matt,

You are talking a foreign language to me. Grin

I know how to turn them on and off and back on again. LOL

I told him it was a tower and what kind. He did all the rest.

Since moving out and renting of our place in 2018, I have misplaced the hard drives when they did not fit what he ordered and I packed them up.

I will find them this spring and get something.
Hopefully it will be correct this time.

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Re: Is there a 5 pin relay with 2 #87s that come on at the same time?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: December 25, 2019 12:08PM

When you do... takea picture of the plugs... We'll tell you.

Sata Harnesses are $3 on ebay...

Just the other day I transferred a lady's files in less than 10 minutes.

Formatted here old one and left her with a 900 gig backup drive. Shame to waste good parts!

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