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61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: November 05, 2019 05:37PM

I have a wagon here and there are a couple of plates that I do not ever recall seeing. These plates were mounted just as you see them, I had to remove the one for access to a screw.
Anyone here ever see these?







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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 05, 2019 06:51PM

Hot air recirculating deflector plate?

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: November 05, 2019 07:05PM

I thought of that being a deflector plate, I also thought about them being the block off plates but the right side one is not shaped correctly to go around the filler pipe.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: November 05, 2019 07:43PM

Home made? I have never seen these before.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: November 05, 2019 07:52PM

I've seen them on a Lakewood forum but can't remember their purpose. My car has the holes but not the plates.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: November 05, 2019 08:05PM

Some of the pictures are gone but here ya go. And yes.....I searched!

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: November 06, 2019 06:20AM

LOL, I didn't search! Thanks.

So I take it that it is a factory thing but no real conclusion of what they are for specifically and it looks like maybe an early 61 part and there was a line change sometime?
Since photobucket will no longer do third party links without paying them money I wish the other people would re-post the pictures. I left photobucket for that reason!

I guess it stands to reason that they would be hot air deflectors. With the engine hot air it can get up to 300 degrees, yes I have put a temp gauge in the heater duct! With the air at 300 degrees and coming almost straight up that is a lot of heat to be putting on the engine lid. What if you put your hand right there? After a long drive I think you just might burn your hand. I remember my wagon getting pretty hot on the rear support.

I think it was said that the early wagons had a larger recirc opening? More air flow and more heat. The later early cars had a bent flap at the opening to deflect the air, I always bend those closed.

So hot air deflector stands to reason. Unless someone else has knowledge of the real purpose.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: November 06, 2019 06:53AM

Anyone have a '61 assembly manual?
If it was a short-term thing, its deletion would be in the "Changes" section.

Service bulletins are another place to look.
They may have seen short-term use as recommended in a service bulletin. Hello Chet? <aka "the service bulletin king>

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: Westds ()
Date: November 06, 2019 09:15AM

My 61 Lakewood wagon had the and I removed them. I thought it may have had something to do with someone accessing the engine through the rear opening. Maybe keeping things from dropping down into the rear pully.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: November 06, 2019 04:31PM

I did take a look in the assembly manual and no mention in the 3-4 sections I looked in that were related.

I bet it would be a service bulletin especially for a short term fix.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: November 06, 2019 04:39PM

I’ve had two Lakewood’s that had them. I believe they had the larger air intakes as well. My current wagon is later production 61 and has the smaller air openings and no deflectors our drill holes where they would have been.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: November 06, 2019 05:34PM

Smaller and larger air openings?

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: November 06, 2019 06:11PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> Smaller and larger air openings?

Openings for the cooling air in the engine compartment sides.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: November 06, 2019 07:04PM

Pictures of both? I've never noticed but mine may all be the same.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: eddieb ()
Date: November 07, 2019 08:00AM

wonder about all the wagons at Corvair Ranch? Anyone close enough to check? EddieB Dade City,Fl

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: November 07, 2019 12:01PM

There were several anti-carburetor-icing band-aids countermeasures in the early days. I wonder if these are to direct bypass air toward the carburetor side of the program for a little carb heat?

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61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: The Stig ()
Date: November 07, 2019 04:13PM

joelsplace Wrote:
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> Pictures of both? I've never noticed but mine may all be the same.

Here's my current wagon. As mentioned late '61. Hopefully someone can post the earlier version.




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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 07, 2019 04:28PM

Didn't they hace partial blocking plates for winter driving at some time on Wagons and FCs??

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: November 07, 2019 07:33PM

FCs had them on the sides of the engine compartment for icing problems (as per a service bulletin I believe).
I have wondered if ALL FCs had them from the factory or if it was ever an add on fix.

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Re: 61 Lakewood, Strange Parts
Posted by: vairmech ()
Date: November 08, 2019 05:49PM

Timothy Shortle Wrote:
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> FCs had them on the sides of the engine compartment for icing problems (as per a service bulletin I believe).
> I have wondered if ALL FCs had them from the factory or if it was ever an add on fix.
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I think all FC's had them but most people took them off. I can assure that they do help prevent carb icing. I have driven without them and with high moisture and about 40 degrees out I got carb icing more than once and just had to let the engine heat melt the carb ice, that was a long night traveling, in Kentucky I think. The reason for the deflectors was just that, they were placed in just the right spot to be right next to the carbs and the incoming cold air would not go directly over the carbs. Simple but it worked!

I think the deflectors on the wagons were only used on the ones with the one piece lower shrouds where the outlet doors are attached. When they made them 2 pieces there was a design change on the hot air recirc vent.

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