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66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 05, 2019 07:29AM

Donna and I got the front suspension off the coupe yesterday, All pieces needing refurb are off the car. So it is time to get this one apart and start cleaning it. Front suspension is fairly clean, except for the typical greasy areas.

Received my order of bolts from the supplier. I asked Rick to add the couple of bolts, a few nuts and all the washers I need to his order when he places it later this week. Clark's will get the major order in a couple days when I know I have covered all parts I will need.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp





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Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: November 05, 2019 07:38AM

Looks good Al. I see also some rear suspension components. I don't see any provisions for front brake drums (nice). I also liked seeing all the fasteners you posted recently. Is there a problem with all the original (50+ years old) nuts and bolts?

Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 05, 2019 07:43AM

Those parts qualify as "West Coast" ggg

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Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 05, 2019 09:00AM

It is pretty nice suspension parts. This car was garaged for most of its life in Birmingham AL. It spent about a year in my yard on a tarp under a lean-to with a cover on it. That was only until I got the 1st stage of my Corvair Center built that the Vair Moved in.

I like new hardware on suspension. Anyone want this old hardware can always PM me about it. The hardware in pretty good shape, so it is being stored. I scrapped all damaged or extremely rusted hardware. Cam bolts on front are being reused, if no issues. I have NOS camber bolts for the rear.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 06, 2019 03:51PM

Gathered up all the NOS suspension parts I have acquired over the past years. All are in a bin with the hardware received to date. All waiting to be put on the suspension pieces being reconditioned.

Rick got the 25 1/2-20 Grade 8 yellow zinc nuts and delivered them to Donna. They are in the hardware bin with the rest of the parts collected so far.

I have to tear down the front suspension and rear torque arms still. But the More Door needed love today, as it will be in a Veteran's Day Parade in Jesup, GA on Saturday.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 08, 2019 01:32PM

Disassembled rear suspension torque arms and front suspension today. All that is left to do before sandblasting is to press out the bushings. I have pipes ready for the procedure, but have to slice a pipe to do upper a-arms and get clamps to hold them together.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 08, 2019 02:32PM

Now I have a issue with hardware holding the upper A-frame to the cross member.

My upper a-frames has metal lock nuts (3/8-24) to hold it on. The other 4 front suspension had either metal lock nuts or a lock washer and regular nut.

I searched with Google but only came up with F-bogy A-frame hardware that vendors are selling as same as OEM. What they are selling is black oxide bolts and grade 8 silver zinc metal lock nuts. I can almost believe the Vair had the same type hardware installed at time of production. The bolts I pulled from my coupe are black oxide.

Can someone who has definitive knowledge tell me what is correct or could someone who has a non-molested OEM pure in this area LM Vair use a mirror and determine what GM used on this location for nuts.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Seth Emerson ()
Date: November 08, 2019 04:30PM

Al - You probably know this, but I thought I would pass this along. Be sure to pair Grade 8 nuts with Grade 8 bolts, and grade5 bolts with Grade 5 nuts. Torque specs are different and the clamping force and retention is based on the torque. If you torque a Grade 8 fastener to Grade 5 torque values, it may back off, then fall off. If you torque a Grade 5 nut to Grade 8 specs, it may strip. Same with a Grade 8 nut on a Grade 5 bolt. Just be consistent. As far as the bolts used. I can't help, because a previous owner of the race car put tapered spacers in between the upper A-arm and the mount to get more caster and camber. He replaced the stock bolts with longer Grade 8 fine thread bolts.

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Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 08, 2019 04:51PM

Sure did know that little fact. Part of my Navy/Marine aerospace training back in 1972.

Here is a note I put in the bolt listing in another discussion.

All hardware is GRADE 8 and factory hardware that was removed.

Everything on the suspension is Grade 8 that I have found.

And another note later in the discussion.

Note: You should use Grade 8 washers with all Grade 8 bolts & nuts.


And the link. I may have to amend the list depending on what I learn on the A-frame nuts.

[corvaircenter.com]

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 09, 2019 02:46AM

I decided to check out the Shop Manual procedure for removing the upper control arm. Though an easy procedure, there is nice info in there to help in knowing parts needed for installation.

The manual on Page 3.12, Removal of Control Am, Assembly, states

Remove two nuts retaining the upper control arm cross shaft to front crossmember. Note number of shims at each bolt, if there any are present.

Everywhere else where washers are used, the washers are called out. This means to me that the upper control arm nuts do not have lock washers. The nuts have to be metal lock type nuts, like I found on my 66 Coupe. Time to update the pates list.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 09, 2019 06:03AM

I'm a bit late to this thread.

I built some steel brackets.

To hang a front suspension.

On a standard engine stand.

Clamps hold the pinch weld.

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Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 10, 2019 12:27PM

Thanks for the stand photo. I was thinking of mounting it on my engine stand by using strut rods mount points. But nixed that idea and decided to leave it on my following green rack.

Pressed out old fittings from lower A-frames. Made the split pipe to do upper A-frame. Installed on one and pressed out on side. Now I need to make a press bush to press out the out her side. I have pressed it as par as it will go with a flat plate and long pipe.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 12, 2019 12:55PM

Completed removing pressed bushings from upper A-frames. Also remove bushings from rear torque arms.

Time to degrease and sandblasting done.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 22, 2019 05:02PM

Found a local Powder Coating Company that will sand blast my suspension pieces. I have to make sure all grease and undercoating is off the pieces. He will work with me, so I can be there to coat the parts with Rust Fix to convert remaining embedded rust. I can then get a coat of primer on the parts within the day.

I got the front crossmember almost free of the hateful undercoating. Very little grease was on it. A-Frames, sway bar, center steering link and brackets are the greasiest items to clean up

He has a 39 Chevy that is a project car his friend is trying to sell. Owner of the coating company wants it gone to free up the space. Too much work for me to even consider dreaming about doing it.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: December 11, 2019 03:42PM

Wire wheel brushed (grinder wheel) steering center link and front stabilizer bar. Treated with Rust Fix and primed. A set of front strut rods have been bead blasted, thread chased, treated with Rust Fix, primed and painted satin black. Bump stops were removed and repainted also. New studs used to reinstall bump stops.

Ordered front suspension kit this morning. Should be here Saturday.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 01, 2020 03:37PM

Cleaned all the grease off the suspension's small pieces.

Completed Dust Deputy bucket installation for blast cabinet, so it is ready to start blasting suspension pieces.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 04, 2020 01:39AM

Last 2 days, I have cleaned, bead blasted and painted most of the Couple's small suspension pieces.

I have been looking for new rear coil spring rubber bump stops. Clarks doesn't have them and all I find are smaller versions of the stop. Vair stops are 1.75" x 1.75" conse style stops. Best I can find are 1.625" h x 1.5" d. I will continue my search. Not really looking for NOS rubber ones, but would use them if available, if necessary.

No painting today on any parts. Heavy rain coming down.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: TheRealHip ()
Date: January 04, 2020 09:58AM

Have you thought about using something like this?

[www.summitracing.com]

You could trim the height.



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Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 04, 2020 10:38AM

Yes. Thought the extra 3/8" really wouldn't make a difference. Not for the driving I will do with the coupe. Still looking around. Even thought the 1 5/8" h and 1 1/2" d would be ok.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


Re: 66 Coupe Suspension Rework Project
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: January 05, 2020 02:44PM

Here are some photos to show progress.

Only have Cross Member, rear torque arms and springs to go. The new blaster cabinet is working great. Wish I had found the Dust Devil dust collection unit years ago.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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