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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: November 01, 2019 10:19AM

Gold Wrote:
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> I removed my cocktail shakers from the front of my 69 firebird conv. And the rear of my 65 corsa conv. They are very heavy and are located at the worst possible place for performance.

Not unusual...people chasing performance or racing goals are known to sacrifice comfort or long-term durability to reach their benchmarks.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 01, 2019 10:25AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 01, 2019 10:33AM

Phil Dally Wrote:
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> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

We understand the Ballast, but . . .
Blue Ice Chest = Fuel Chiller???

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, '62 Monza Wagon, '63 Spyder, '65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 01, 2019 10:34AM

Ice water pumped through the intercooler.

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: November 01, 2019 11:08AM

Someone please buy these so WM can take a course in "Cropping" pictures and setting the "Viewing size" GGGG

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: November 01, 2019 11:34AM

If only the instructions you had given me earlier on size worked, and if you could preview your attachment before posting. If only!

'29 Ford Model A Tudor
'61 700 Lakewood 110 4 speed
'69 Monza Convert. 140 Auto.
'70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 4 speed

Been aircooled since 1973
Northwest Ohio

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: NapaVair ()
Date: November 01, 2019 01:36PM

Can cocktail shakers go bad?? My 66 Conv has a cowl shake between 45-50mph. I have already done the basics to try to stop it, new tires balanced, new shocks, new bushings. I would say it has lessoned since all my work but there is still a cowl shake at those speeds. Any ideas?
Thanks.

Eric
Napa, CA

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 01, 2019 02:04PM

YES. You have to take them out and see if the fluid leaked out.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: NapaVair ()
Date: November 01, 2019 02:14PM

Thanks Al, I will check them. In one way I hope they have leaked so then I know the issue.

Eric
Napa, CA

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: November 01, 2019 02:38PM

My Malibu has new tires on it that shake. Balancing doesn't help so it is possible to have new balanced tires that still shake.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: November 01, 2019 03:34PM

They have regular hydraulic jack oil in them.

At least that is what my streamliner buddies used.

They changed the thirty years old at the time fluid.

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: azdave ()
Date: November 01, 2019 04:42PM

Be advised...my verts with dampers still shake quite noticeably compared to my coupes. Good indication of how much a solid roof adds to the chassis performance.

Dave W. / Gilbert Arizona
65 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4
66 Corsa 140/4 w/factory A/C
66 Corsa 455 Toro V8
65 Monza Convertible 110/4
66 Monza Convertible 140/4 A/C
65 Monza 4DR 140/PG w/factory A/C
65 Monza 4DR EJ20T/5



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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 01, 2019 06:23PM

Phil Dally Wrote:
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> They have regular hydraulic jack oil in them.
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> At least that is what my streamliner buddies used.
>
> They changed the thirty years old at the time fluid.



Why ? ? ?
No moving parts.
How is it going to need changing?

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, '62 Monza Wagon, '63 Spyder, '65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: November 01, 2019 06:36PM

As long as the old fluid is there and still around the viciousness of heavy oil, no need to change.

If some of the fluid has leaked out of the inside or has become contaminated, they should be drained and refilled.

There is moving parts inside, a heavy weight suspended by 2 springs, the resistance of the oil slows the movement of the spring allowing its mass to reduce vibration and movement of the car body.

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: November 01, 2019 06:37PM

Wagon Master Wrote:
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> Anyone wanting a set of these expensive, hard to find land speed racer parts......PM me.

So that's were they all went - LOL!

Often missing from the rear of the LM convertible. I suppose it is because they have to come out to access trim/bumper hardware.

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: November 01, 2019 06:43PM

ral1963 Wrote:
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> As long as the old fluid is there and still around the viciousness of heavy oil, no need to change.
>
> If some of the fluid has leaked out of the inside or has become contaminated, they should be drained and refilled.
>
> There is moving parts inside, a heavy weight suspended by 2 springs, the resistance of the oil slows the movement of the spring allowing its mass to reduce vibration and movement of the car body.


SO, I would imagine that using the wrong viscosity of oil would change they frequency that they dampen. No?

Just make sure sure that whatever you do, DO NOT use vicious oil ! ! ! winking smiley

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, '62 Monza Wagon, '63 Spyder, '65 Corsa
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: November 01, 2019 06:47PM

We need to have some original oil tested. Maybe you sensitive type can use different types to smooth things out.
All of my oil is pretty docile.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: ral1963 ()
Date: November 01, 2019 06:56PM

LOL... how did that "i" sneak in there....

Rick Loving
Corvair historian & chronicler of useless facts
CORSA
Performance Corvair Group
Chicagoland Corvair Enthusiasts

RAL1963@COMCAST.NET
Just south of Chicago IL

Current Ride
63 Sprint Vert 140/4sp

Past Rides
60 700 Sedan 80hp PG
63 Monza Vert 102hp 4 spd
63 Monza Coupe 140hp 4 spd
63 700 Sedan 80hp 3 spd
64 Monza Vert 110hp 4 spd
64 Monza Coupe 95hp 3 spd
64 Monza Sedan 110hp PG
65 500 Coupe 95hp 4 spd
65 Monza Coupe 110hp PG
65 Corsa Coupe 140hp 4 spd
66 Turbo Coupe 180/4sp
68 Monza Vert 140hp 3 spd

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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 01, 2019 07:05PM

I was going to say that the Dampeners I have are very docile as they stay quiet in their corner. So no vicious fluid in them. Probably still original union installed oil from back in the 60s where peace and love prevailed in Detroit.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Convertible Corner Weights
Posted by: JerryM ()
Date: November 02, 2019 09:32AM

I'm curious about the quantity of oil is.
I've found several references to them as pnuematic dampers.

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