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Washer Pump
Posted by: Coho Cliff ()
Date: October 16, 2019 07:07AM

I bought an Anco 61-02 washer pump and could not make it work. Appears the stroke of the 4 lobe cam on the wiper motor doesn't move the racheting mechanism far enough to rotate it. The instructions say something about removing and replacing the 4 lobe cam, but there was no replacement cam in the box. Anyone have any idea what's going on here?

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 16, 2019 07:31AM

If you just put in a new bellows, it is too stiff. Rick and I just rebuilt 2 with new bellows and the solenoid is not strong enough to over come the stiff bellows. I manipulated the bellows by finger pressure about 100 times and we got just a small stroke. We tested pumps without bellows first and they work fine.

More work to do to get the bellows to work in the pump. I got the bellows off ebay.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: 63vert ()
Date: October 16, 2019 10:14AM

There should have been a new plastic 4 lobed actuator in the box. Ask the seller for a replacement piece.
And yes, it is different than the OEM piece.

Rockingham, NC

1962 Greenbrier
65 110 4speed



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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 04, 2019 04:44AM

Lane66m Wrote:
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> If you just put in a new bellows, it is too stiff. Rick and I just rebuilt 2 with new bellows and the solenoid is not strong enough to over come the stiff bellows. I manipulated the bellows by finger pressure about 100 times and we got just a small stroke. We tested pumps without bellows first and they work fine.
>
> More work to do to get the bellows to work in the pump. I got the bellows off ebay.


How is that effort coming? I'd like to rebuild my pump, The bellows seems to be intact, so I'd like to buy a kit that has the valves as well. All the kits I find on Ebay say not for Corvair. What kit did you find that works?

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 04, 2019 05:07AM

I bought a kit and put it on a pump. Have not tested it yet. I am going another way for washer pump and reservoir, since my vehicle is not staying stock. I found what will work in same location.

If you want to buy my rebuilt pump, PM me for details.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: November 04, 2019 09:02AM

I install a universal pump on every car
that has a failed washer pump. A small
bracket attached to one of the holes
where original pump used to be and then
the pump attached to that and wires
attached and squirt is instant and
constant. My customers like the
universal much better, just push button
and hold while steady streams hit the
glass.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 10, 2019 01:52PM

This is the system I put on. Twice the fluid capacity, new style pump and clean installation. Got it from LMC Truck.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: TerribleTed ()
Date: November 10, 2019 01:59PM

Keep in mind that the 61-62 washer pump is not the same as 63-69. The later pumps will not properly align on the earlier motor and the gear that runs the pump will not even fit on the motor. Could be that you have the later pump and without the gear replacement to try to install you would not know that it will not mount?

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 11, 2019 07:36AM

I posted on the other forum before I saw this post. The pump listed for a LM on Clark's, Ebay, Amazon etc., is the Anco 6102, which is longer and wider than the pump that is on my car. Clark's mentions this (sorta), but says it will fit, even though I can see the hole spacing is different, and the position of the lever is different than the stock pump. I don't know if I have a "later" or "earlier" pump as mentioned by Ted.

Since the larger pump is apparently the only one available, I'm wondering:

Is the larger pump the "later" or the "earlier"?

I doubt that I have an Early model washer motor on my '66, but I have the smaller pump, which is different than the pump Clark's offers.

Has anyone adapted this larger pump to the LM wiper motor assembly that has the smaller pump?

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 11, 2019 07:47AM

Post a photo of your new pump and the old, so everyone can see what you have.

I didn't want to mess with the pump and it's bellows and valves any more. That is why I went to the 88- 98 Chevy truck tank & pump. Clean install and simple to install. Big install piece is swapping terminals out to a new connector to mate to bare wires on new pump connector.

I have one rebuilt pump for LM ready to go. Also 4 used LM washer pumps needing rebuilds that operate but bellows are bad. I will post a for sale later for these pumps.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 11, 2019 08:12AM

I have a picture, may be this afternoon before I can post. As you can tell, I'm trying to maintain stock, and as this car has AC, there is limited room on the bulkhead for modifications.

If I can't make this work, I'll modify with after-market parts.

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 11, 2019 05:07PM

Here's a picture

The smaller one is the original from my 66.
The larger one i found in my stash.



Any details on the smaller one?

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 11, 2019 06:21PM

Well the smaller one is what I have from all my LMs. Don't know where the large one came from but not a Corvair pump. The smaller one is the one I rebuilt and have available for sale, along with a few I did not rebuild. That vertical plastic piece on the smaller one is what the motor cam wheel moves to actuate the pump bellows to pump the washer fluid.

Let me know when you wish to purchase the rebuilt one I have and one of the used one as a spare.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 11, 2019 06:35PM

Strange, I just checked my '65, and it has the larger one, which is the same as the Anco 6102, as well as the one Clark's sells. I'd love to buy the one you have Al, but I'm on mission to fix this myself, due to the challenge, and the personal satisfaction. Plus, I'll be able repair any future issues.
I may lose the game anyway, though!

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 11, 2019 06:47PM

I will take photos of the ones I have and also of the one off my Camaro. Might answer some questions for you, once you see what came off all the LM cars I scrapped and my 2 Vairs.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 11, 2019 07:06PM

I was wrong, the 65 convertible has the smaller unit, the same as the one in the 66.



The part number on the motors is the same as well.

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: November 12, 2019 08:52AM

Looks like the original poster evaporated, but yes a DIFFERENT cam should have come with the ANCO pump. Original stock cam WILL NOT WORK with the ANCO pump.

Larry202 - J.O. used the ANCO style pump without issue back in 2016.

Joe West found that Eklers sells a kit WITH the bellows for the original 63-67 Corvair washer pump --- See [www.lategreatchevy.com]

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 12, 2019 09:24AM

66Vairman,

Thanks, sorry about hijacking the thread.

Who is J.O.? perhaps I can discuss with him.


I'll try to mount that larger pump this weekend, We'll see what happens!

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: November 12, 2019 09:35AM

Larry you have the supposedly replacement for the Vair pump. There should be a bushing to relocate the top screw to the original Vair location. That should allow the pump to operate like the Vair pump with the same gear.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp





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Re: Washer Pump
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: November 12, 2019 09:54AM

Cool! I don't recall seeing a bushing or spacer in the junk box with the pump, but I bet I can improvise! Thanks.

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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