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Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: October 09, 2019 01:50PM

I plug a lot of stuff into my cigarette lighter, and I worry about the eventual overtaxing of that thin wire that feeds it. Any suggestions about where to find a more robust lighter and smaller gauge wire? That is simple to install.

Thamks,

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Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA
Member: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, and San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club
THEN: 1965 Monza 110 Canary Yellow
1967 Monza 140 Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"It would not have helped if I had [taken notes], as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 09, 2019 01:57PM

I put a 3 out with 2 USB outlets under my dash on the heater outlet to run the items I need. It is double stick taped the heater outlet. I tied into the IGN circuit with a 5 amp fuse and limit it to small draw items, chargers, GPS, detector, HUD. If I need another outlet for a MP3 player or something else, I add a another 2 or 3 outlet unit to this one.

I leave the cigarette light outlet for heavy draw items, inverters, portable cool box unit, etc.

Oh yes, cigarette lighter is not fused, so limit your heavy draw on it. You should add up the max draw of each pf your items to not go over the wire gauge capability. You should have a 20 amp fuse added, I think, for safety. Wire gauge is a 10 or 12 so it is substantantial due to the heavy draw of the lighter.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp





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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: October 09, 2019 02:00PM

Yeah, I'm using a multiplier that includes three cigarette plugs and two USB plugs. It's coming straight out of the cigarette lighter. I just don't want to burn it out and I wasn't sure I was over taxing it. From what you described I'm okay?

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Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA
Member: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, and San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club
THEN: 1965 Monza 110 Canary Yellow
1967 Monza 140 Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"It would not have helped if I had [taken notes], as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 09, 2019 02:13PM

On the trip up to Maggie Valley trip I had on my 5 amp fused multi-outlet, the following. Heaviest draw to light as. Escort detector, Samsung phone fast charger. IPod, Bud. No issues. But Donna was driving, so she didn't have my tablet and the GPS hooked up. If she had the last 2 items, I would have moved the first 2 items to the cigarette lighter.

I am considering adding a relay to the cigarette lighter circuit so it is only active when IGN CIRCUIT IS powered. More work electrically will be done to take these new demands of the IGN circuit so they have their own power and the IGN circuit on controls the relay to activate them.

Right now I have the factory circuits on the Fuse Box IGN circuit, the new electric fuel pump control circuit, and the new multi 12 volt outlets. I think I am at the max and need to shed the new stuff to their own power wire with relays controlled by the IGN circuit.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 09, 2019 02:43PM

Here is a photo of my outlets. I was mistaken. The one mounted on the heater duct only has 12v plugs. The one I plug into that one has the USB outlets. That way shorter USB cables can be used and I can hide its cable under cup holder box..

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: October 09, 2019 02:47PM

Thank you.

My car is getting some paint work done after an auto mechanic chipped it. They are paying. Anyway, when it comes back if this topic is still relevant I'll show a picture of my setup.

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Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA
Member: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, and San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club
THEN: 1965 Monza 110 Canary Yellow
1967 Monza 140 Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"It would not have helped if I had [taken notes], as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 09, 2019 02:58PM

That white USB cable is for the HUD. I will be putting a USB adapter into the unused outlet on the upper unit to plug the HUD cable in to tame the cable. Only items carried into the car for trips will go into the second unit.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: 66vairman ()
Date: October 09, 2019 03:17PM

The wire to the cigarette lighter socket is 14GA (or should be). It was unfused in 65-66 and was fused via the fuse box starting in model year 67.

A 14GA wire can conduct 20Amps over 4.6feet with less than a 2% loss. Should be more than adequate. I would not exceed 20Amps for plug-in accessories considering you need some reserve for the other electrical equipment in a stock Corvair.

Of course you could put in a higher output alternator and upgrade the supply wiring, which some have done.

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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 09, 2019 03:55PM

My alternator is 65 amps internally regulated. Just need new power wires going forward to take advantage and not overload the IGN circuit.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: October 10, 2019 08:05AM

Lane66m Wrote:
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> That white USB cable is for the HUD. I will be putting a USB adapter into the unused outlet on the upper unit to plug the HUD cable in to tame the cable. Only items carried into the car for trips will go into the second unit.

At the risk of hijacking the thread, can you tell us about your HUD?

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 10, 2019 04:32PM

This is the one I got. It is not accurate. It is reading 63 when my 2018 Silverado does 60 and the Vair is doing 61. But it is on the good side of being wrong. For $20, what can you expect from China. By comparison, my Escort detector shows 61 mph when truck is set at 60 cruise.

[www.ebay.com]

Digital GPS HUD Speedometer Heads Up Display Car Speed Warning Plug & Play Kit

Product Description
Feature:
1. Head-up display - projects the driving speed on the windscreen.
2. Driving time and mileage calculation and display
3. Easy Setup--Plug & Play- Power through vehicle cigarette lighter. No professional installation is required.
4. Compatible with all Cars & Trucks. Use GPS signal guided calculation. No wiring needed to the VSS (vehicle speed signal).
5. Display MPH or KM/h
6. Auto adjust brightness through sensor for Day & Night driving.
7. Vehicle driving speed display. Green color speed display, easy on your eye.
8. Over-speed Alarm setting

I hope this helps. It is nice to have on the dash so to remind me to watch speed. No cruise control and my foot gets heavy.

Al Lane
Ellabell, GA 31308

1966 Monza Coupe, 110 hp, 4 Spd
1966 Monza More Door 110 hp, PG
1968 Camaro SS Coupe 350 CI 295+ hp PG
1964 Greenbrier Deluxe, 6 dr, 80 hp car engine, PG
1947 Farmall A tractor 15 hp


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Re: Upgrade Cigarette Lighter
Posted by: larry202br ()
Date: October 11, 2019 05:28AM

Thanks, could be handy in a classic vehicle!

1961 rampside with a 65 / 67 110 engine, car four speed.
1965 convertible
1966 Custom two door/four door 180 Turbo.

KC0SKX
Olathe, ks
HACOA

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