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Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: radicalbuff ()
Date: October 08, 2019 06:26PM

Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash of a 64?
I'm not electrically gifted so the diagrams are a bit confusing to me.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 08, 2019 07:18PM

Sure... on the fuse block.... one of the tabs sticking down...

If you don't want tolearn to read our diagrams.... get a Test light...12 volt..... hook the wire clip to bare metal and probe with the illuminated end.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: radicalbuff ()
Date: October 08, 2019 07:22PM

There is a cut off about 7 inches of green wire sticking straight down, that is the only thing I see sticking down. Is it supposed to go to the cigar lighter?

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 08, 2019 07:38PM

I believe the 16 -18 ga. green was for the factory radio.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: radicalbuff ()
Date: October 08, 2019 07:55PM

Well, thanks and I will try the tester tomorrow, and hopefully I can work it like you explained.

By the way I have a diagram right here.

Are the 14 R and 16 R the live ones? And is the PPL only live when you turn on the key?

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: October 08, 2019 08:03PM

Are you trying to find out if a certain wire is hot at all times under the dash, or are you looking for a place to hook up something to get hot at all times?

These are two different questions.

Matt has it right on there is a 1/4" quick disconnect tab on the fuse block to attach a new wire that you want to be hot at all times. There are ways to connect to this even if it already has one wire on it.

Or are you trying to identify a cut wire under the dash?

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 08, 2019 08:10PM

radicalbuff Wrote:
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> Are the 14 R and 16 R the live ones? And is the PPL only live when you turn on the key?
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14 R is live always.. 16R ??? Purple only when cranking to start.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: radicalbuff ()
Date: October 08, 2019 08:40PM

***Are you trying to find out if a certain wire is hot at all times under the dash, or are you looking for a place to hook up something to get hot at all times?***
Yes. trying to add a momentary button switch for an electric fuel pump to prime when too cold or too dry of carbs, but it also needs a 10 amp fuse.

***Or are you trying to identify a cut wire under the dash?***
and yes,
the one I mentioned hangs straight down from what you called a quick disconnect tab that is green and is cut off about 7 inches long.
The cigarette lighter is not connected to anything, it looks a little rough so I am wondering if it is faulty.

I was wondering if the one that hangs down is a live or hot wire. In my diagram it is hard to tell if that is the case.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 08, 2019 08:52PM

Put your light on it and you'll see! After 50 years who know's!

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: radicalbuff ()
Date: October 08, 2019 09:04PM

Thanks, I was thinking that might be the case. On my fuse panel one of the fuse sections where it plugs in is missing one end of the clasp that holds the fuse in. It is the section on the end that says Heat blow and Gl box L, am thinking that would make that section unusable so our heater blower is on an external fuse. And it is right where the the hanging down quick disconnect is, (I just looked and it does say Cig. ltr.) so would that be unusable? I will check it tomorrow with the light tester thingie anyway.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 08, 2019 09:44PM

Lighter is always hot... no fuse.. on earlies

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: Lane66m ()
Date: October 09, 2019 01:54AM

I put my electric fuel pump switch momentary switch on the IGN controlled circuit. Guaranteed way to way to kill switch, if it fails to disconnect without ripping a wire off. I took out the fused wire for the fuel pump from the factory female Packard orange lead, cut off the male Packard terminal from my original pump wire, added another fused wire with that wire to another male Packard terminal, inserted it in the connector, then plugged it back into the factory lead. It is on a ten amp circuit, so I figured it would be good for the 4 second use at each start up.

Note: my original wire at this connection only powers a relay to pull and put battery power to the pump. Power can only get to pump, if impact switch has not been triggered and dual contact oil pressure switch is made (Vega switch).

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: October 09, 2019 09:45AM

One of those unused Heat Blow fuse positions is for the GAS heater blower, that mounts in the trunk area. That is why it is unpopulated on cars with the HOT AIR heater (1961 to 1964).

And for the fuel pump push button switch, I always wire it to hot when ignition is on. No need to have it hot all the time. And I do fuse it with an inline fuse.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: radicalbuff ()
Date: October 09, 2019 11:49AM

Thanks everyone, we finished up the project and tested it out. Works great! We went for a small ride with the top down in the super cold north wind. Amazingly it works great! The wire tester worked too. I had to buy fuses even though we have a bunch but none were 10 amp. I might move the connection to the ignition like you suggest. Right now it's on the Cig. Ltr. hanging downward wire I mentioned before.

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Re: Is there a wire that is always hot under the dash? 64
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 09, 2019 05:07PM

Great!

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