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California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 03, 2019 09:16AM

Should get rid of a big ole' distraction so I can focus on Corvairs.

Car last registered about 10 years ago.

Was in shop in Escondido getting new cylinder head and other repairs.

Got it home.

Fees seem to be at the maximum of about $800.


Anybody have any ideas how to get this registered without taking a beating?

THE CALIFORNIANS

BIG HORSEPOWER HIGH SPEED ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!



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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: October 03, 2019 09:23AM

Sell it to someone out of state. I don't think many states have late registration fees. Texas doesn't unless you got a ticket for driving with expired registration.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 03, 2019 09:28AM

Thanks Joel!

We want to keep it.

Called a registration place and he said bring the paper work in and there is

probably a way to do.

We could transfer it to another family member and I think the new owner's are not

responsible for back fees.

Then we would be sweating out whether state would come after seller family

member for back fees.

You have to pay back fees even to register it off road.

Been checking into options.

THE CALIFORNIANS

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: October 03, 2019 09:29AM

A certificate of non operation should have been filed with the Golden State's DMV annually. Joel has the right suggestion.
Find someone on the western border of Arizona or the southern border of Nevada (no state income tax in Nevada) and register it there. Those areas are close to you, right BOB?



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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 03, 2019 09:36AM

'close to you, right BOB?'

What the heck does that mean?

I put in 16 hours days.I don't have time for puzzles or games.

Found out even if we junk it we would still owe the back fees.

We don't want to junk it by a long shot.

Of course we should have filed non op's.

That is water under the bridge now.

Did not used to be a big deal.



That we weren't keeping up to speed on.

THE CALIFORNIANS

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: October 03, 2019 11:13AM

Up to a few years ago... 8 years and it was off the books.. no back fees

Take it out of state..but that will probably cost you more!

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: October 03, 2019 11:21AM

In Texas it would probably cost about $30 to move it into state without buying tags but the big catch is getting the car inspected in Texas. It only costs $7.50 but the car has to be here. I don't know what it costs to transfer a car to CA.

Joel
Northlake, TX
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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 03, 2019 11:37AM

Thanks Joel.

Will look into doing something like that.

I think something like it would be transferring it to a friend for awhile.

That would keep it all here in California.

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: steve57 ()
Date: October 03, 2019 04:25PM

If your vehicle has not been registered in over 10 years it may no longer be in
DMV system. Back fees may not be owed to reregister. Search HTVR 14, at CA DMV.

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: alan_smithee ()
Date: October 03, 2019 05:23PM

this thread is making me tense every time I read it. yet, like a car wreck, I keep looking


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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: alphasud ()
Date: October 03, 2019 05:30PM

I don’t think it would work to register in another state and then bring it back. A number of years ago I bought a car in AZ when I lived in CA. The car was at one time registered in CA and when I registered the car it was like it never left the state. Had to drive to an enhanced emissions station to get it to pass even though I lived in a standard emissions test area. California even made me pay sales tax on my truck that was purchased when I lived in PA and paid the tax several years prior. I feel sorry for all of you that live in that state. I will never go back!

David North Idaho
1965 Corsa Turbo converted to 140
1971 Super Beetle with 2.5L Subaru engine
2004 F350 work truck
2004 Cayenne Turbo

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 03, 2019 06:07PM

Thanks Steve

'HTVR 14, at CA DMV'

Yep.Car is probably about a year or two away from 10 year mark.

Has been in family since new.

'don’t think it would work to register in another state and then bring it back'

That does sound iffy to me too.

We will with 'wait until it drops off records'.

THE CALIFORNIANS

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Re: California Register Our Own Car Been Sitting
Date: October 03, 2019 06:10PM

OK,just let me check that you have actually gone to the CA DMV site to check the fees. If, as Steve57 says, your car is out of the DMV system because of how long ago it was last registered, then the DMV system will indicate that your car was not found. Then you're home free.

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: Marco_a_p ()
Date: October 03, 2019 07:01PM

I just went through this a couple of months back close to a year on a 68 that had been sitting for over 8 years they will only go back 8 years after that they won't calculate anymore if you can get an affidavit signed and a statement of fact that the vehicle has been stored off California highways and roads and the wheel tire has not touched the road since and has been stored off registration that means it was rolled onto a trailer the tire never touched the road it went from private property to private property without ever touching the road you should be able to get it done with a affidavit saying it was not on the road they will exempt that and give you credit for all those fees I did it cost me my standard fees

Marco
A 2nd Gen Monza Wagon, a 2nd Gen GB 8door, a 2nd Gen (61's were 1st Gen) R/s and a 62nd Gen Turbo coupe..

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 03, 2019 07:11PM

' they will only go back 8 years after that they won't calculate anymore'

We went and checked two or three years ago once or twice.

The fees seem to stay the same.

We might have hit the 8 year limit mark.

'affidavit signed and a statement of fact that the vehicle has been stored off California highways'

We will ask about that.

Thanks.

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: October 04, 2019 08:22AM

When I registered my Corvair it had been sitting for at least 10 years and was off the books here in California. Most of my registration fees were based on the price of the sale of the car and the fact that it was an old "gross polluter" that hadn't been used in a while.

It didn't show up in the California DMV system, but there were fees associated with smog and price. I bought mine for $4,500. I got it registered for about half of what you were saying, approximately $450.

Some of what you owe may be due to local taxes. Not just for California but for the county as well. Try something as simple as registering it in a different County (mine is Tulare), waiting a little while, and then renewing the registration. After the first year, I haven't owed anything except regular re-registration fees.

People tend to think of California as San Francisco and Los Angeles, and forget that there are vast swathes of the state that aren't any more expensive than the Midwest, except for gasoline!

My house isn't even any more expensive than it would be in Oklahoma. Just a thought.

____________________________________________

Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA
Member: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, and San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club
THEN: 1965 Monza 110 Canary Yellow
1967 Monza 140 Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"It would not have helped if I had [taken notes], as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 04, 2019 09:03AM

Hi Eric

I like that quote in your signature.

Remember.If you find somewhere nice to live,don't let anybody know about it.

When we relocated to San Diego for awhile.

I couldn't believe they had a Tourist and Convention Bureau telling people about

San Diego and booking those stupid conventions so people were actually brought in

to see it!

Like trips to early LA area and giveways to get people to move here.

We will wait out old state of California on registration deal.

THE CALIFORNIANS

BIG HORSEPOWER HIGH SPEED ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: OttawaCorvairGuy ()
Date: October 04, 2019 09:28AM

I don't have time to read all your bs.
First you say you want to keep.
A couple of post later, you mention scraping it and it would still cost you.
Not sure why you even looked into the latter if you want to keep it.

This is what I would do.
Give the vehicle to a family member out of state.
Have them file ownership there.
Sometime next year you buy it back for the fees it cost them plus one dollar.
That now makes you the new owner.
Take the new ownership to DMV and put it in your or your wife's name and keep it up to date this time.

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: October 04, 2019 10:09AM

Yeah. A good neighborhood is like a good mechanic. Hard to share, and nice to have.

My quote is just kind of what it's like for me to plop down into the Corvair world with very little mechanical experience. It's true for a lot.

Cheers.

P.S., I did that thing with the out-of-state sale and then purchase back from my dad about 12 years ago. I waited the appropriate amount of time, but when the car was back they still had the fees on file. This was in Orange County. I think the only way I was able to get rid of them was to apply for a new license plate. It tore me up because the car still had its originals from the 60s, but it was the only way to get the car back on the road in California.

Got to keep the plates though. They're in a box in the garage.

____________________________________________

Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA
Member: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, and San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club
THEN: 1965 Monza 110 Canary Yellow
1967 Monza 140 Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"It would not have helped if I had [taken notes], as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: California Licensing Our Own Car that has been Been Sitting
Posted by: The Californian ()
Date: October 04, 2019 10:22AM

Thanks Eric

'the only way I was able to get rid of them was to apply for a new license plate'

Will file that tip away.

If you are new to mechanics do this:

Get Craftsman tools from Sears.Stanley from Wallmart if easier.

Build a wood workbench with a 3/8" thick plastic top.

That cutting board plastic.You can get a 4x8 sheet from a plastics warehouse.

Get a Sears Craftsman 6" vise.

Start taking that ole' Corvair apart and putting it back together.

Oil change, brake jobs and tune ups are good place to start.

Get a floor jack and jackstands.Harbor Freight.

THE CALIFORNIANS

BIG HORSEPOWER HIGH SPEED ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!

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