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Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: September 08, 2019 08:34AM

Only get to take my 65 out about monthly. Starting is prolonged but always does start. Should I start and idle for 5 minutes every week, or is that worse?

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: billh1963 ()
Date: September 08, 2019 09:00AM

Idling is worse.

If I cant drive any of my collector cars for whatever reason they sit until I can. I have three routes I typically drive my cars..one is 25 miles, one is 50 miles and another is 80. I drive those loops (I choose the loop based on weather and time availability) to get everything up to operating temperature...especially the oil.

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1964 Monza Coupe Bahama Green
1965 Monza 140 Corvette Yellow metal flake (Canadian Corsa Clone)
1965 Corsa 140 Mist Blue (WRN)
1965 Corsa 140 Mist Blue (LOS)
1965 Corsa 140 Crocus Yellow
1966 Corsa 140 Marina Blue project
1966 Corsa 140 Convertible Ermine White Project
1966 Monza 140 Convertible Lemonwood Yellow Project
1969 Monza 110-PG Dover White
Right in the middle of South Carolina

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Mel ()
Date: September 08, 2019 09:22AM

billh1963 Wrote:
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> Idling is worse.
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> If I cant drive any of my collector cars for whatever reason they sit until I can. I have three routes I typically drive my cars..one is 25 miles, one is 50 miles and another is 80. I drive those loops (I choose the loop based on weather and time availability) to get everything up to operating temperature...especially the oil.


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Orangeville, Ontario. CANADA

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 08, 2019 11:33AM

X3

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: September 08, 2019 11:44AM

WOW your bars are pretty far away, just say'n

J.O.

65 Corsa Turbo Vert
79 Honda XL 500S
69 Honda CL 160 D
2010 BMW F 650 GS
2003 Bounder 36D
2013 KIA Optima SX turbo-AKA ZIPPY (wife,s car)
69 Newport Holiday Sailboat
Baja 150 dune buggy cart
Coleman HS 500 UTV
2016 KIA Sorento SXL Turbo

Bethlehem,Pa


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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: September 08, 2019 03:43PM

Okay she sits....

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: September 08, 2019 04:14PM

I see in your sig line it has an electric fuel pump. So why the prolonged start/cranking after setting? No purge switch?

'29 Ford Model A Tudor
'61 700 Lakewood 110 4 speed
'69 Monza Convert. 140 Auto.
'70 Dodge Challenger R/T 440 4 speed

Been aircooled since 1973
Northwest Ohio

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: September 09, 2019 02:00PM

Ok, I'm gonna start something...

Running periodically, if done properly will not harm the engine. Something I picked up at the GM training labs, back in the carburetor days.

First, the fast idle settings should be matched for both carbs.
After the engine is started and warmed up, the chokes will be pulled full open. So there will not be any rich fuel issues.
The engine should not be bumped down off of fast idle. Allow the engine to run on fast idol for at least 15 minutes. This will allow the oil to get fully circulated, engine will get up to operating temperature and run long enough to boil out any moisture in the crankcase and muffler. Much like taking it out on a 15 or 20 minute drive.
With an automatic, run it through the gears several times with a foot on the brake at the end of the running procedure.

Although periodic running should not be regular practice. It can be done if one simulates a short drive. Just starting up and letting the engine idle is not a good idea.

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: steve c goodman ()
Date: September 09, 2019 02:06PM

An actual drive makes wheel bearings/trans
and diff parts/steering joints and brakes
all operate.

Not trying to argue with you Dave, just
my opinion from seeing cars parked for
several winter months and the issues that
follow those cars instead of those exercised
through the winter time.

best wishes, Steve
Rear Engine Spec. Inc. Golden, Colo.

1962 spyder 3.0L turbo---1965 Crown V8
1967 monza 110/4---1968 monza 110/4
1971 amante gt 110/4
CORSA/RMC/PPCC/V8 Registry

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: alphasud ()
Date: September 09, 2019 02:46PM

All cars are happy to be driven. If not good storage practice should take place. On the European side the cars that were regularly driven had fewer issues than ones that I called garage queens. When I bought one of those cars mentioned I bought one with higher miles and enjoyed them. Get them out and give them a good run. Especially the 140 Corsa you can’t flush the old fuel from the secondaries without getting into it. Plus it feels good!

David North Idaho
1965 Corsa Turbo converted to 140
1971 Super Beetle with 2.5L Subaru engine
1965 Corsa mid engine project
1973 Mercedes 280 project

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: September 09, 2019 04:46PM

Ah see... I knew this would start somethin!grinning smiley

I agree about the drive line oil getting circulated up. However for the engine just like back up systems and the wind machines we have here in citrus fields, long run ups without loads are quite common and no detriment when done properly.
My concern is when one just starts the engine and only lets it run at idle for a few minutes. Sludge city!

Bottom line... weather permitting, taking it out on the road is truly the best. One can even check the brakes!winking smiley

Corventure Dave

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: September 10, 2019 04:19AM

To be clear I get out at least once a month, perhaps twice once rainy season is over. I presume that is enough.

I do not have a a purge switch, only an on-off. I usually turn key, wait about 20-30 seconds for pump to prime and then crank. Takes awhile to start when cold, and the longer she sits the longer it takes. Otherwise usually starts quickly.

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 10, 2019 06:23AM

That's Normal!

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: rowin4 ()
Date: September 10, 2019 08:16AM

The problem with purge/ prime switches if there not electrically activated by the key switch they can be left on . A old starter type button works much better to prime the carbs using a electric pump just for priming. Push the button for 10 seconds, let up on the button and start .

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Wagon Master ()
Date: September 10, 2019 09:17AM

Problem solved! My purge switch is a toggle center off, one way constant on, other way momentary on.
Been sitting start,
Hold switch in momentary on position for 10 seconds.
Release and let it spring return to off.
Accelerator to floor and release to set chokes.
Accelerator to 1/3 down.
Car starts instantly.
I use the other constant on position if the inertia or oil pressure switch(s) should ever flake out. Only used to get me home.

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: playerpage ()
Date: September 10, 2019 09:50AM

Mine has been running better the more I use it. This time of year that's almost daily, over the winter-- such as it is in the desert-- it sits for a month or two at a time. Everytime I take it out I try to put a few miles on it for the purposes listed above.

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Eric C. Player, Porterville, CA
Member: CORSA National, Central Coast CORSA, South Coast CORSA, and San Joaquin Valley Corvair Club
THEN: 1965 Monza 110 Canary Yellow
1967 Monza 140 Red
1966 500 110, Black; nicknamed "Shadow"
1965 Monza 110, Camaro Yellow; nicknamed "Silver"
NOW: 1966 Corsa 180 Turbo; nicknamed "Bluvair"

"It would not have helped if I had [taken notes], as he would start a paragraph with, 'It is therefore obvious. . .'
and go on from there to matters which may have been obvious to him and God but to no one else."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, character of Daniel B. Davis, 'The Door Into Summer.'

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 10, 2019 06:47PM

"Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives ? "

Start it (and DRIVE it), . . . . . year round! thumbs up smiling bouncing smiley

Yes, it can be done.
Even with a 140/ four barrel.
Just say'in.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Have; '66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza
Have had; '61 Monza coupe, '62 Monza Wagon, '63 Spyder, '65 Corsa
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non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Date: September 11, 2019 05:53AM

Now that I have a gas heater, I would absolutely drive mine in the NJ winter, except this current administration sprays brine (liquid rot) on sunny days. That's not a joke either. My car doesn't need any help with rust acceleration.

1961 Corvair 700 Sedan - 3sp - Gasoline Heat - Lowered a bit - Rust in Progress
I live my life 19.5 seconds at a time.


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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: matchlessmo ()
Date: September 11, 2019 08:01PM

My sat since Feb 2014, been busy and sept 8,2019 fill carbs on with gas fired right up, I was shocked it start right up and idled prefectly for 25 mins with old gas. Lol


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Re: Better to start once a week or wait for monthly drives
Posted by: Mjposner ()
Date: September 12, 2019 04:12AM

The more I drive (like every week-end) I have no issues starting. How long should I let the electric pump prime before starting. Perhaps its simply a no fuel issue?

1965 Corvair Corsa 140
Regal red over Red/Black Interior


Mods/Options:
Wood telescoping Steering Wheel
Clock (correct twice a day)
tinted Windshield
4 Speed manual
Rear Ant
passenger side mirror
electric fuel pump
Vintique type 30 rally whels

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