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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 08, 2019 06:58PM

I have been looking for one but don't have one yet. There is a hydrant in my front yard so I could get going quickly. I keep missing free ones or almost free.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: cnicol ()
Date: September 09, 2019 07:01AM

I know your question is serious but...

How about combining your interest in old stuff, your love of racing, and the fire cart idea?

Little known fact: The famous Coventry-Climax racing engine's humble beginning was that of a fire-trailer water pump engine. Open pump, this thing would probably drain your water tank in 30-seconds!

Craig N. Coeur d'Alene ID.
66 Black Monza 4dr, 4.2L V8 49k
61 Seamist Jade Rampside 140 PG
60 Monza coupe (sold, sniff sniff)
66 Sprint Corsa convt - First car! Re-purchased 43 years later
2+2 gnatsuM 5691

+17 Tons of parts

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: corventure Dave ()
Date: September 09, 2019 01:43PM

An issue we have here at work in Santa Paula, Ca. is the hoses breaking down.
Any more... the hoses are only reliable for about 5 years with the Sun and ozone and what ever their made of these days. Even when stored in the shade this breaks down the hoses. Ours are 1 1/2 inch and not used regularly for irrigation. For that watering we use commercial 1 inch hoses and they only last a couple years.

This one with 28 psi. Would hated to rely on it in an emergency.

The "off shore" made stuff just doesn't hold up like in the good old days!

Corventure Dave

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 09, 2019 10:31PM

They need to make it out of the stuff Craftsman garden hoses are made from. Mine stay outside all the time and some are 20 years old. I can't tell the difference between the 20 year old ones and others that are only a couple of years old. All are still perfect. Texas sun usually kills everything.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: September 12, 2019 06:01AM

Housekeeping, housekeeping housekeeping! The only fire you can address is an incipient one (one that is in it's first phase SMALL) which means you have to be there immediately and CLOSE to the fire. Always allow a quick path to RETREAT. There is nothing better than a good ABC extinguisher for incipient fires. Perhaps a 20#, pricey but worth its weight. Keep em by the exits.

You will NOT be able to control anything after the first phase of fire period. Don't waste your money on pumps and hoses for a free burning fire you will be pissing in the wind. Let the FD do their work. Smoke will overcome you VERY QUICKLY so this precludes an interior attack, unless you have full turnout gear and a SCBA. Then again even if I had that gear I wouldn't commit to a dep firefight without someone with me. You need someone to drag your ass out!

Don't get me wrong but civilians have no business fighting fire in my PROFESSIONAL retired opinion. I've seen tooooo many BAD scenes where folks tried to fight a fire that was beyond their control.

Be smart attack from a defensive position, call 911 and get the frack out alive. Oh yeah sprinklers are great if you have the volume of water for the sq footage of your shop.

Trust me I can write a book on this topic.

Be SAFE. DA CHIEF!

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"



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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 12, 2019 08:23PM

That is GREAT advice 66cv8. thumbs up
But I was under the impression that Phil was not planning on fighting a house fire, but rather just preventing a possible shop fire, or grass fire from spreading TO his house.
I think Phil is bright enough to stay out of a burning building.
UH, right Phil ? ? ?

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - Sale pending
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non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: Phil Dally ()
Date: September 13, 2019 03:21AM

Indeed there's nothing in my shop worth dying for.

An old saying that I learned in the Boy Scouts.

"If you fail to prepare you prepare to fail"

I know I'm a Gasman not a Fire Fighter.


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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: 66cv8 ()
Date: September 13, 2019 03:55AM

Most of have sense enough to know when enough is enough. Recently there was a gentleman who had a garage fire and pulled one of his Vairs from the garage and sustained burns in doing so. This bothered me a bit. Not worth the pain and scaring IMO.

Trust your instincts and to hell with the property!

Joe

66 500 Crown 350/4 on road
66 Corsa Convertible 140/4 rough
69 Monza Convertible 140/4 in progress (original 95/3)
Nu Joisey

" A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING"

"STUPID is the NEW SMART"



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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 13, 2019 10:21AM

Scars add character. Not all burns scar for some reason.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 13, 2019 08:26PM

While, "Scars make better stories, than tattoos!"
That is no reason to go pursuing them.
Burn scars can be pretty gruesome.
Especially on the face!

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - Sale pending
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: O/T-Need Fire Fighting Cart Ideas
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 13, 2019 08:36PM

I try to avoid them if at all possible.

Joel
Northlake, TX
5 Ultravans, Lost count at 100 Corvairs...

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