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Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: krankypants ()
Date: September 06, 2019 08:39PM

I need to get this van home which is over 250 miles away. Is it safe to drive it with the cooling dampers and whatever else is missing (see photo)? Notice how you can see daylight and the ground at the very back of the engine. This is my first Corvair, so I am not sure what is missing and how risky it is to drive it this way. I would prefer to avoid renting a truck and trailer if possible. Unfortunately this is the only photo I have of the engine until I pick it up.

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 06, 2019 08:47PM

NOT recommended.
It will be sucking a LOT of hot air right back into the engine compartment!
I suppose that you could do the trip IF you are not driving in HOT weather, and NOT pulling many hills.
When are you picking her up?
I am guessing, . . . tomorrow?
If not, then while you are waiting to go get her, order some rear shroud pieces, and install them when you pick her up!

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: mikeycee ()
Date: September 06, 2019 08:48PM

Why is the oil dipstick hole plugged shut with a bolt? It's there just above the "firing order". Nice to know how much oil is in it first wouldn't you say? confused smiley Mike

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: 63vert ()
Date: September 06, 2019 08:53PM

mikeycee Wrote:
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> Why is the oil dipstick hole plugged shut with a bolt? It's there just above the "firing order". Nice to know how much oil is in it first wouldn't you say? confused smiley Mike


Car tin on a FC block. It has the FC oil tube......that said...with no exhaust tin, how or where is the tube attached?
More questions than answers with this one picture. I’m not sure I’d try to drive it if the tube is just sitting there.....

Rockingham, NC

1962 Greenbrier
65 110 4speed



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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 06, 2019 08:54PM

Welcome to the CCF! I see you are in the Seattle area....so this is east of you?

Pretty warm still?

Not having owned an FC... all I can do is go by what's OK in cars...

So I say NO.... Hot air recirculation is like blocking off the radiator in a Water cooled vehicle..


Wait for some FC owners to add to this.

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: krankypants ()
Date: September 06, 2019 09:04PM

I am hoping to pick it up in the next few days, but it sounds like its not worth the risk even if the temps drop a bit. I just checked Uhaul and a truck and trailer is only $300, so I think I will just plan on doing that. Thanks for the help everyone. I can't wait to get this home and officially join the Corvair community.

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 06, 2019 09:34PM

Uhaul will not allow their trailers to be used to tow Corvairs.
They are afraid of the rear weight bias.
Many people just do not make it clear that they are towing a Corvair.

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - Sale pending
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non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: krankypants ()
Date: September 06, 2019 09:56PM

I'll double check with the local Uhaul. Their website asked what I was towing and I selected Corvair truck (they didnt have the van in the list) and the website said it was OK. I will confirm before I go pick it up. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: Vairismo ()
Date: September 06, 2019 10:13PM

If it is a manual transmission you could flat tow it. As mentioned before though, sort of depends on the terrain of that 250 miles etc. Less chance for complications if you trailer it of course.

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: jjohnsonjo ()
Date: September 07, 2019 05:06AM

At 250 miles I would be checking tire age.

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 07, 2019 09:26AM

So, you guys afraid cardboard baffles would catch on fire?confused smileyhot smiley

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Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: 63vert ()
Date: September 07, 2019 12:09PM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> So, you guys afraid cardboard baffles would catch on fire?confused smileyhot smiley


Huh?

Rockingham, NC

1962 Greenbrier
65 110 4speed

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: Frank DuVal ()
Date: September 07, 2019 12:42PM

I was saying except for the fire danger (if there is one), making temporary cardboard baffles would stop the recirculation of the air overheating the engine.

Even if the cardboard would work, if the tires are old, that can make for an exciting and dangerous trip! Even with flat towing.eye popping smiley

Trailer wins for 250 miles.

Frank DuVal

Fredericksburg, VA

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: 63vert ()
Date: September 07, 2019 01:19PM

Frank DuVal Wrote:
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> I was saying except for the fire danger (if there is one), making temporary cardboard baffles would stop the recirculation of the air overheating the engine.
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> Even if the cardboard would work, if the tires are old, that can make for an exciting and dangerous trip! Even with flat towing.eye popping smiley
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> Trailer wins for 250 miles.

Ah. Got it. Sometimes I’m slow drinking smiley

Rockingham, NC

1962 Greenbrier
65 110 4speed

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: joelsplace ()
Date: September 07, 2019 01:26PM

I drove a Greenbrier back home about 150 miles a few years ago. It lost the input shaft seal almost immediately so I had to buy a lot of gear oil and stop frequently to fill it back up. Got really nasty crawling around under it in so many various places on the way home. Chase car had to hang back to keep from getting smoked out since it was leaking on the exhaust. Clutch made it fine though.

Joel
Northlake, TX
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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: Timothy Shortle ()
Date: September 08, 2019 07:46PM

I will go out on a limb and assume since you are only showing the engine the tires, brakes, steering, etc. are in
acceptable condition as far as safety. Is the oil cooler clean and the cover on? Is there a block off plate installed
on the right front of the top shroud? If yes, you will be OK to drive this home. Carry a spare fan belt and (maybe)
a fuel pump. I DON'T LIKE YOUR FUEL LINES. Especially the rubber hose."Safe to drive it home"...? Is this a running-driving
vehicle currently?

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 08, 2019 08:55PM

Timothy! What about the missing Sheetmetal? Do FC's / RS not have a problem with Hot Air recirculation?

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: dolomitefan ()
Date: September 09, 2019 02:06AM

American Mel Wrote:
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> Uhaul will not allow their trailers to be used to tow Corvairs.
> They are afraid of the rear weight bias.
> Many people just do not make it clear that they are towing a Corvair.


Really? That's crazy. Simple answer, reverse it on the trailer, all the weight will be at the opposite end!

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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: idiyaught ()
Date: September 09, 2019 06:07AM

It looks like the lower sheet metal is missing as well.
I have been driving mine for 7 years as a summer daily with the rear rubber seal missing. Don't know if it is getting damaged but it keeps going.
Temperatures here usually don't exceed 90deg f

John Oostdyk
Thornhill, Ont
63 Rampy
65 Greenbrier
64 Convertible



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Re: Is it safe to drive it home like this?
Posted by: FLSteve ()
Date: September 09, 2019 09:08AM

I drove a 69 with only the top on for years. The trips were not over 75 miles or 70 mph but never had any issues with over heating. Take it easy, remove the lower shields and check on it.

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