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Doing some Swaps, need a little help.
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 05, 2019 08:11PM

Okay, so I have been working on the vert for several weeks now.
I have swapped out the PG 140 Uni-Pak, and installed the entire 4spd 140 Uni-Pak from the Moredoor into it.
This is a hybrid swap.
It is a '65 transaxle, into a '67.
I know it all works together, since the Moredoor is a '67 also.
So, the question is, there were 2 electrical plugs that I disconnected from the PG shifter.
(I am assuming.) One is the back-up light switch, and the other is the Neutral Safety switch.
Funny, with all of the swaps that have been done over the years, I can not find a definitive thread on how this swap is done.
For those who are about to say, "Look in the F.A.Q.s!", I did !
There is only this one thread in the F.A.Q.s.
( Swapping from Auto to manual and vice-versa in EM / LM / FCs )
Thank you Craig Nicol, but for my needs, it is inadequate.
It is a thread for "Detailed lists, and Instructions", but it only has lists, and ZERO instructions.
I did/do not need a list, since I already have everything needed (and it was already assembled), I just need a couple of missing instructions.
Question #1 is, which one of the plugs is which?
And question #2 is, do I now need to jump the wires on the Neutral Safety Switch connector? (it would seem so to me.)
In doing a search of this topic, and the next, I found several threads that were full of OPINIONS, but very few facts, or real instructions.
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I also have a Corsa dash that I am installing at this time.
I have searched, but have not found any instructions for this swap!
Again, there are SEVERAL threads that talk about doing this, but none actually talk about HOW to do it!
The harness plugs are totally connectable, but there are a LOT of wires in the Corsa plug, and only a FEW in the Monza plug.
What wires go to where, what wires may need to be moved in the connector, and which ones need to be added?

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'66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - Sale pending
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Re: Doing some Swaps, need a little help.
Posted by: Wills69 ()
Date: September 05, 2019 08:49PM

Mel

As I recall you tie the pink wires serving the saftey switch together. These wires are behind the dash. Then you'll need to fish out the green wire in tunnel harness serving backup lights. You need to wire them in series to the tranny reverse switch.

Will
Grayslake Il
69 500 now 4 spd

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Re: Doing some Swaps, need a little help.
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 05, 2019 09:26PM

On an LM it's the 2 12ga. Purple wires for N safety swith.

Other plug 2 Dark green jump them also... tape both.

At the engine harness connector... 20 gauge B/grn body side.... split there and run wires down to whatever switch you will be using

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Re: Doing some Swaps, need a little help.
Posted by: MattNall ()
Date: September 05, 2019 09:30PM

As far as the Corsa dash...

Add Two wires and the 1/8" plastic tube for Mainifold vacuum.

2 wires are for

1 Tach

2 Thermister


Also drill a hole for the Trip Reset cable

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Re: Doing some Swaps, need a little help.
Posted by: American Mel ()
Date: September 05, 2019 11:09PM

MattNall Wrote:
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> On an LM it's the 2 12ga. Purple wires for N safety swith.
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> Other plug 2 Dark green jump them also... tape both.
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> At the engine harness connector... 20 gauge B/grn body side.... split there and run wires down to whatever switch you will be using


Thanks Will & Matt ! ! !

Hmmm.
Here is a thought.
Put a switch between those two purple wires, keep it tucked up under the dash, and I will have a hidden theft deterrent!

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WA. state, 1 mile south of the Canadian border,
I am not at the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
'66 Monza Coupe - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 Monza Vert. - 140, 4-spd. Daily driver beater
'67 A/C Moredoor Monza - Sale pending
.
non-vair
'04 Dodge Cummins Quad Dualy, approaching 400K
17'Terry



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